I have an 8" Gretsch tom with original wood finish and one Gretsch permatone head. It appears to be early 60's or older. I'd like to trade it for a 12" Ludwig tom from the 60's. I would prefer silver, red, or blue sparkle. Even a WMP or solid white would do. Please email me at [email][email protected][/email] because I'm not always up-to-date on the forum. Thanks