Are you speaking about the "ear" of the hoop, where the tension rod passes through? All my Rogers drums, both toms and snare appear to have identical hoops top and bottom. Is it possible that one of your hoops isn't original? Pictures will always help.

-Mark

Yes, it's the "ear" part of the hoop.

I have a set of drums (8x12 -tom tom, 16x16 floor tom and 5x14 snare) which came as an original set. All of the top hoops have the rounded "ears" and the bottom hoops have the flat edge "ears". I thought bottom hoops might have been swapped out, but then the snare also has the same flat ears. I've looked at some pictures of other Rogers kits and it appears some have the same setup we are discussing.

I'll try to get some pictures posted.

-Tim

Pics would help.

Rogers hoop profiles over the years are very similar... 60s-early 80s. However there are variations. And with any production variation, both parts are likely to appear in the same set, and even on the same drum. If hoops from a 60s drum end up on a set from the late 70s via replacement... chances are there will be differences.

Here are some pictures of the three drums.

As I've been really looking at these hoops, the top hoop in the 16x16 picture is the only one that looks different.

Any idea on the manufacturer? Ludwig?

-Tim

That top hoop on the 16" is not Rogers. Looks like an old import....

The hoops on the 12" are both Rogers. Can't tell if they are different because of a normal production variation in the one hoop, or if one was replaced.

Things happen to a drumkit over a 50-year period, dented parts get replaced etc...

Dan,

Are you certain both of those 12" hoops are Rogers? All my Rogers hoops (Daytons and Fullertons) look like the bottom hoop in Tim's photo. The ears have a very tight "pinch" and meet the top of the ear in a clear, sharp angle (see pic again below). Also, the top surface of the ear where the tension rod seats is quite flat with no curving. I would be very interested if the top hoop is also a Rogers. In which Rogers' era did such hoops appear?

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Mike

mchair303 - Thanks for the diagram. That's exactly what I was seeing on the 8x12 too. Ears with a tight pinch or flat sharp edge are 100% Rogers.

Maybe some serial numbers would help.

8x12 tom tom - Tower = 4151

16x16 floor tom - Holiday = 58786

5x14 snare - Luxor = 8842

-Tim

You guys are looking at the wrong photo. The 8x12 hoops are in separate photos, the 16" hoops are in a single photo in the original post. The 16" hoop is the one that is not Rogers.

DOH Oh! I thought the pic with the two hoops stacked on top of each other were the two 12" tom hoops. I didn't see the titles of the JPG's. Okay, I think we're on the same page now. The distinctive, sharp-pinch of the Rogers hoops is quite distinctive; all the other more "curvey" ear hoops are non-Rogers. Thanks, Dan.