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I observed an all too familiar movie scene in "The Grey Zone." A prisoner concert band drummer playing what looks to be a Ludwig Acrolite while entertaining Birkenau...arrivees.Sad.The producer surely had the best intentions explaining the horror of bad mankind but...This really peeves me that a movie budget cannot ensure a period correct instrument is used! Come on Hollywood,get some help! A VERY

hard hitting film to watch for certain but now I just won't feel the same when I smack my go to snare. I need a hug.

Posted on 10 years ago
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Don't let it bother you, happens all the time! There is a MASH episode where Radar is playing a Ludwig Club Date kit in 1952 Korea... historically, years before the drums ever hit the market. The same thing in a Hogan's Hero's episode, drums from the wrong (much later) era than the show is supposed to take place in. (WWII the 40's.)

I think Hollywood gets it wrong more often than they get it right. Probably the only ones who even notice are drummers, so I'm sure they're not overly concerned with accuracy for our sakes.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

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Posted on 10 years ago
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In the same vein, almost, was the Nip-It pinball machine that was in many scenes from Al's Drive-In in the series "Happy Days", which took place in the late 1950s even though Nip-It was introduced in the early to mid 1970s.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Nice 1950's B/O badge Ludwigs, Cunningham...

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Anyone watch Mad Men? Check out season 3, episode 3. Supposed to take place in 1963. Chrome wrap Ludwigs, and you can see the large K ink stamp under the crash cymbal (LSR). I'm sure you experts will spot other errors.

Sorry for the crappy quality. They were screen-grabbed from Netflix, and our connection sucks.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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I used to do "Sidelining" in LA when I was union.

A movie of the week deal on Network TV.

You play on a movie stage set. Mostly pretend to play without actually making any sound.

The period was 1920. My drums were a mix of 50's and 60's and 70's.

I brought whatever I had available that wasn't on the bandstand at the real gig.They did not specify what kind of drums. Just some drums and cymbals. I think the agent said just "bring a drum kit".

No one said anything about the drums I brought.

I think if they were very particular, a set designer would spec out a period correct set and have it supplied on stage.

The only time we made sound, for 1 minute, was for a band close up.

It was hard not to laugh when you are pretending to play and watching your bandmates. Accidentally making a ping on a cymbal or a click on the rims. We would all look and wait for a "CUT".

Little noises did not seem to be a big deal.

It's nice when they get the period right for the kit.

scott

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Thanks to Mr. Jerry Jenkins
Posted on 10 years ago
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I thought of Mad Men right away when I read the first post.

There may also be double-braced stands holding up those cymbals. Pretty sure I saw them on the kit used by the band backing up Draper's wife on "Zou Bizou Bizou" a couple of seasons later.

Mad Men sticks out because they are otherwise pretty slavish about period-correct set dress. It's a sport to pick out the anachronisms.

-Erik
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Early '70's Slingerland New Rock #50 in blue agate (20-16-13-12)
Late '50's WFL Swingster/Barrett Deems in black/gold Duco
'70's Slingerland Gene Krupa Sound King COB
early '70's Ludwig Acrolite
'80's Ludwig Rocker II 6 1/2" snare
Rogers Supreme Big "R" hi hat

Posted on 10 years ago
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At least Hollywood was a little bit closer in one of the all-time great music biopics. The kit was only 9 or 10 years after Buddy's death. Of course, concert-tom converted which would match the 1978 movie release year. But at least they are 3-ply Keystone shells with clear interior, not a complete far cry from the original WFL kit. All I'm saying is it looked plausible for a movie. They could have easily used a 1978 B/O COW or Pearl or whatever. I'll let the guitar nuts chime in on how badly the guitar matched.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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The worst error I caught in the Buddy Holly film was in the final sequences where the bass drum logo was the one Ludwig began using in 1968-1969.

I did enjoy the movie though.

MarkE

Posted on 10 years ago
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