Oh my.....They have been seperate entities for a while. Vaughcraft has moved a few times, latest is in Ottawa Ks. I am in the hole for $1650 after paying up for complete shells on June 2nd of this year. All I have rec'd was a wrong size cherry shell and a mystery wood species snare shell. I was supposd to get a 20 x14, 12 x 9, 14 x14. I among the others get no e-mail or phone replies. I have also filed with the Kansas Attorney Generals Office, the BBB, and the IC3. I have six months of e-mail lies/ wacky replies from John Rose: "Lovely, going out now", 6 weeks later, "the shells are cracked", two months later, :"going out to be edged", 8 weeks later: "Edge guy cracked the shells", last calll, "It is cost prohibitive for me to send your shells out to be turned down"...WTF ? Meanwhile he is sending out feelers for similar sixed shell sets with diffirent varieties of wood. My e-mail, also sent to the attorney generals office, to John Rose asked him to send me the cheaper set he was hawking to others since my finished set from now 8 months ago has mysteriously gone off his radar. Be very careful with John Rose, his BBB rating is currently an "F" as he refuses to answer complaints.This is what $1650 gets you !!