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Let me start this by saying, this is only my observation and opinion. After acquiring my first Trixon kit, I've had had several guys on here and elsewhere warn me about some issues with their hardware, like the plastic casings on the floor tom legs and screws stripping out, but doesn't this happen on most vintage hardware?

I've owned them all and have had Ludwig tom arms move while playing no matter how much I tightened the bolt with a Ludwig hex wrench and the kick would creep with the fold out legs. I've had wing screws on Slingerland kits strip left and right, same issues with Gretsch kits. But what about the almighty Rogers, surely I've had no issues with them, wrong! The swivel-o-matic tom arms would move during normal playing and after constant use, the ball would strip out to where I couldn't get the proper placement. I got frustrated enough to put the tom on a snare stand.

As far as the Trixon goes, I don't know if it will hold up, but the kit is over 40 years old and everything is working just fine.

Posted on 9 years ago
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In the past I've had EVERYTHING strip out or fail on my drums, but this was because of two things:

First, my drums were always MIJ or Taiwanese.

Second, I always over tightened everything.

That's not to say I haven't gotten vintage hardware that wasn't already stripped or cracked. I also play hard rock and metal, but what took me a while to realize is that most of the damage I had caused and or saw was from, not heavy playing but heavy handling. I would use drumsticks or wrenches to crank down wingscrews or wingnuts. I played in garages, backyard parties and bars. Never did I clean or lube moving parts or threads.

I try to use period correct hardware with each of my sets.

My slingerland flat base hardware is clunky but holds fine, the consolette needed new chrome bolts and nuts but works great, other than finding Allen screws to fit the floortom leg buttons everything seems fine.

My ludwig stuff works even better, especially the 60's stuff.the 80's stuff seems to have the tom movement on just the bigger 14" & 15" toms. Maybe I need to look into replacing the eye bolts.

I like Drums...
1963 Ludwig Downbeat Champagne Sparkle
1964 Leedy (Slingerland) Blue n Silver Duco
1964 Ludwig Club Date Sparkling Silver Pearl
1966 Ludwig Super Classic Sparkling Silver Pearl
1968 Gretsch round badge modern jazz orange stain
1972 Slingerland 85N Pop outfit Light Blue Pearl
1976 Ludwig Vistalite clear
1981 Gretsch SSB Gran Prix Rosewood
1987 Yamaha Turbo Tour Custom Mellow Yellow
1991 Pearl Export Ferrari Red
Posted on 9 years ago
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In all honesty, I love my Ludwig hardware. I gig my Downbeats and never get let down....ever. The Rack Tom sings when on the console rail and doesn't slip about. The BD doesn't creep on my carpet with light plastic velcro stoppers. Same for my super classics. OK the spanner thing is a bit of a bind, but thats part of the love of it for me.

The Gretsch version is just poor. I always mount the Tom on a snare stand.

The trick, maintain the threads with a little lube. Done.

Good luck with that Trixon!

40's Slingerland Radio King WMP
60's Ludwig Downbeat Silver Spark
70's Ludwig Super Classic White Marine
60's Gretsch RB Champaigne Spark
70's Rogers Big R Black
90's Sonor Hilite (Red maple)
00's DW Collectors Broken Glass
00's DW Jazz Series Tangerine Glass
10's DW Collectors (Acrylic) Matt Black Wrap
10's PDP Concept Wood Hoop kit (Maple)
Proud ambassador of the British Drum Company
Posted on 9 years ago
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I agree that over tightening and using incorrect tools cause most hardware failures. When I was younger (in my twenty's) my Dad observed me having trouble with my hardware. He made a hand tool for tightening and loosening wing nuts and screws. When he gave me the tool he gave a "training" session on how to adjust and "snub up" my hardware. I have not had a problem nor have I stripped anything since and it has been over 40 years. I still have and use the tool he made for me.

Posted on 9 years ago
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Fingertight for me always. And I never pack my hardware bag with any screw tightened. Makes for quicker set-up.

40's Slingerland Radio King WMP
60's Ludwig Downbeat Silver Spark
70's Ludwig Super Classic White Marine
60's Gretsch RB Champaigne Spark
70's Rogers Big R Black
90's Sonor Hilite (Red maple)
00's DW Collectors Broken Glass
00's DW Jazz Series Tangerine Glass
10's DW Collectors (Acrylic) Matt Black Wrap
10's PDP Concept Wood Hoop kit (Maple)
Proud ambassador of the British Drum Company
Posted on 9 years ago
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