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Vintage Stick Thread! Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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From vyacheslav

Mod-O,I have several pairs of the Pencil models, 3 wood tip and 3 nylon tip. I agree, they are a great stick! As far as modern equivalents to the Pencil, nothing is quite the same but I would check these out:Bopworks BirdlandBopworks Shelley Manne (or Zildjian Hal Blaine, which is virtually identical)Vater BeBop 500 (Hickory or Maple)All those sticks are around .500 (none bigger). The Birdland's have different tips. The Manne's/Blaine's have the pointy-er tip similar to what the Pencils had. I really like the new Vater BeBop 500 maples as well (named as such because they are .500 diameter) Light and fast! They have a smaller tip the Pencils did, but still sound great.You can also get the Vater BeBop models in .525 and .550 diameters, in both hickory and maple.I definitley recommend trying ALL the Bopworks stuff (they have 6 models). I have a pair of those script Ludwig 11A Morello's from the 60's, and the Bopworks Mel Lewis model compares very favorably to them. Bopworks whole approach is to re-create vintage stick sizes and feel. Chris Bennett is the owner and a great guy, plus you can buy them right online.http://bopworks.net/

VY,

Thanks for the great suggestions. I'm not familiar with Bopworks and will definiitely check them out. I mostly use Regal Jazz and Vater Sugar Maple Series 7A, both with nylon tips. They're the closest I've been able to find to the old Pencils.

Jim

Set of 1968 Ludwig Hollywoods in Mod Orange
1964 Ludwig Acrolite Snare
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Posted on 13 years ago
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I have a pair of George Lawerence Stone's personal rosewood sticks.

They are from his estate (locked up since 1966/7).

Posted on 13 years ago
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From ModOrange

VY,Thanks for the great suggestions. I'm not familiar with Bopworks and will definiitely check them out. I mostly use Regal Jazz and Vater Sugar Maple Series 7A, both with nylon tips. They're the closest I've been able to find to the old Pencils.Jim

No problem, Jim!

You'll REALLY dig the Bopworks stuff. MUCH thinner and MUCH closer to the Pencils than the Sugar Maple 7A and the Regal Tip Jazz Nylon. The Bopworks Birdland or Shelley Manne will make those Regals and Vaters feel like 5B's!

Posted on 13 years ago
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From vyacheslav

Cool!Let me know when you get them and what you think of them. They come in "old school" plastic bags (at least as of last year they did).

Received the Shelly Manne and Mel Lewis Bebop sticks in the mail today. USPS destroyed the box, but the sticks were still in perfect condition. The balance of weight and matching of pitch is fantastic with these sticks. Even the width of the grain is well paired. I tried these out tonight with a group and loved both pairs. the Manne sticks are EXTREMELY light, almost too light, but are perfect for some applications. They will come in handy for playing in my college's very live concert hall. The Mel Lewis sticks are a new favorite of mine. They have a very nice tapper and are balanced perfectly. I would definitely recommend these sticks, and I will have to try out the others.

Posted on 13 years ago
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