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Were Rogers Superten snares really boring? Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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So I have this new found spring in my step for Rogers Snares. As you may of noticed I've had my Dyna up and running. Actually I did a Jazz gig with it last night and I'm just loving it right now.

Anyway I have a Superten lurking around that I bought off Ebay some 3-4 years ago. I'm going to swap out the Snare mech as the thumbscrew part is missing. I have a knackered English Dyna with a complete mech as the donor.

Anyway I've been internet digging in my excitement and found this site. I wanted to know how you out there felt about this.

http://vintagedrumsandmore.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/rogers-super-ten-model-snare-drum.html

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Opinions are ....... opinions.

Mine is no better or more valid than anyone else's.

If I was more of a drummer instead of a decent musician within the scope of music I play, this would be where the you tube video link would be found. I am not, and have passable skills at best.

I do own a 72 SuperTen COS five incher, two 5x14 from 1975/76 during the Big R five digit badge period (first run Big R, the fabled "transition" period), and two from 1980/81 with no serial number badges, a 5x14 and a 6.5x14. These drums are all fitted with single ply coated heads and ambassador weight snare sides. I also own one 5x14 XP10 Maple, ten ply. I have two 6.5x14 (one of which was made for Gina Schock of the Go-Go's. Plus, there are two 8x14 maples. That is a total of ten SuperTen snare drums.

What I can tell you.

I currently own one 5x14 Supraphonic from 1976, I would rather have one of the Supertens any day.

I also own a 5x14 Black Beauty Supersensitive from 1996 and a 6.5x14 Supersensitive Ludalloy from 1996. I would also rather have any of the Supertens

In my opinion the SuperTen is a better all around drum than any of those. Take it in steel or in maple.

I don't know about special beds, but they are wide and shallow. Rogers equipped them with a 20 strand wire and suspended them with strings. Top head was a coated Ambassador and bottom was a Clear Snare side Ambassador.

Sensitivity is good, with response very much like a Powertone, with snare to the edge, unchoked at any level of playing, with plenty of "ring" that will cut through. Any typically unmiked venue, you will be heard.

My best advice would be to head it up, tune it to Rogers spec, and give it a whirl.

It is a fantastic steel shell drum, and not the typical POS steel shell sound.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 10 years ago
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From The Ploughman

Opinions are ....... opinions. Mine is no better or more valid than anyone else's. If I was more of a drummer instead of a decent musician within the scope of music I play, this would be where the you tube video link would be found. I am not, and have passable skills at best. I do own a 72 SuperTen COS five incher, two 5x14 from 1975/76 during the Big R five digit badge period (first run Big R, the fabled "transition" period), and two from 1980/81 with no serial number badges, a 5x14 and a 6.5x14. These drums are all fitted with single ply coated heads and ambassador weight snare sides. I also own one 5x14 XP10 Maple, ten ply. I have two 6.5x14 (one of which was made for Gina Schock of the Go-Go's. Plus, there are two 8x14 maples. That is a total of ten SuperTen snare drums. What I can tell you. I currently own one 5x14 Supraphonic from 1976, I would rather have one of the Supertens any day. I also own a 5x14 Black Beauty Supersensitive from 1996 and a 6.5x14 Supersensitive Ludalloy from 1996. I would also rather have any of the SupertensIn my opinion the SuperTen is a better all around drum than any of those. Take it in steel or in maple. I don't know about special beds, but they are wide and shallow. Rogers equipped them with a 20 strand wire and suspended them with strings. Top head was a coated Ambassador and bottom was a Clear Snare side Ambassador. Sensitivity is good, with response very much like a Powertone, with snare to the edge, unchoked at any level of playing, with plenty of "ring" that will cut through any typically unmiked venue. You will be heard. My best advice would be to head it up, tune it to Rogers spec, and give it a whirl. It is a fantastic steel shell drum, and not the typical POS steel shell sound.

Oh yes I will do. I'm guessing that swapping the mech over from the english dyna would be ok. I'm sure I read somewhere that Rogers sent US made parts to england for fitting. It looks exactly the same so I'm hoping the holes will line up.

40's Slingerland Radio King WMP
60's Ludwig Downbeat Silver Spark
70's Ludwig Super Classic White Marine
60's Gretsch RB Champaigne Spark
70's Rogers Big R Black
90's Sonor Hilite (Red maple)
00's DW Collectors Broken Glass
00's DW Jazz Series Tangerine Glass
10's DW Collectors (Acrylic) Matt Black Wrap
10's PDP Concept Wood Hoop kit (Maple)
Proud ambassador of the British Drum Company
Posted on 10 years ago
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I had a Rogers SuperTen that I got at Sam Adato's drum shop years ago and ended up having to sell due to financial hardship - I still regret letting it go as it was an amazing snare, always got remarks from folks about how good it sounded, loved that thing.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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They weren't popular back in the day because a steel shell already had the stigma of being cheap. The SuperTen was expensive for the time. Marketing rather sucked at the time... and not just for that drum. There were a little better than 9000 produced between 72 and 75 under the oval badge. It is unknown how many were produced under the Big R badge. However, the shell used during the Big R period is identical in every way to the shell used under the Oval Badge period. This drum shell did not change from 1972-1984.

Steel just wasn't sexy enough. Don't let it fool you, this is a great value in a vintage drum.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 10 years ago
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I have an oval badge Super Ten that I paid $100 for. It is mint. Tunes up very easy and sounds like a million bucks. You can't go wrong with one of these.

Posted on 10 years ago
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