I bought these up on eBay a few weeks ago and just picked them up a few days ago. I was interested mostly in the 12.14 tom....because of the rare WF Ludwig label. I have an old WFL tom with a tacked reso head with one of these labels but it's in al lot rougher shape than this one.

The 9x13 has an aluminum foil badge. I have Rob Cook's Ludwig book and I can't see this badge in there. There are some aluminum badges but not one that says just Chicago at the bottom like mine. And they're 'Wartime' badges - I'm assuming 1940's......Is my drum a 40's = not a 30's??

The heads on both these drums are in very good condition considering they look like they're the original heads.

I like the old canvas bags that came with the drums almost as much as the drums themselves. They're in very good shape. The 13 tom has push-snaps and the other 'clasps.'

The hoops are in amazing condition. They were very dirty...but that's all - they cleaned up beautifully. One t-rod looks like a replacement - it's about 1/4" shorter than the rest but it fits just fine and looks pretty much identical to the other ones. All the screws, washers and other parts look like they all belong together with this drum. When I took the heads off they came off like they had been on the drums for a very long time.....that dirty...sticky feeling feeling when pulling them off. The inside of the shells were very clean. The 14 has a white painted interior (as many Ludwig drums do) - the 13 is clear.

I took all the hardware off and cleaned the shells - just washed and waxed. Some of the hardware was a little rusty and was easily cleaned using vinigar.

The 13 shell has some rash in one area. It actually looks like someone put some very sticky duct tape on it and then ripped it off.

Here is the 14" tonight sitting in with my 50's Gretsch orphan kit.