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Wfl Buddy Rich Be-bop 3x13 Wmp Piccolo Snare Drum Last viewed: 21 hours ago

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Here's the one: The special custom order for Buddy "the Terrible"...Mr. William F. was trying to keep the Problem Child in the endorsers list so anything was granted for him.

All original but the heads..as close to mint as you could only wish...

Perfect, excellent, Mint -, impeccable...

$500.00 shipped anywhere on the States

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Here more pictures!

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V-Bug,

If I didn`t have too many drums in my arsenal already I would buy this one!! Very elegant snare!! Good luck with the sale...

Cheers

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Thanks Grantro! Im sure you'd dig the sound of this puppie!

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From vintage drum bug

Thanks Grantro! Im sure you'd dig the sound of this puppie!

Oh, I know I would!! It`s a not too common size that I like!!

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 13 years ago
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From vintage drum bug

Here's the one: The special custom order for Buddy "the Terrible"...Mr. William F. was trying to keep the Problem Child in the endorsers list so anything was granted for him.All original but the heads..as close to mint as you could only wish...Perfect, excellent, Mint -, impeccable...$500.00 shipped anywhere on the StatesQuestions? more pixs? Just ask![email][email protected][/email]

VDB!...

I thought I might flesh out your text a bit... you're close though! Buddy actually LIKED William F. Ludwig Sr., and because of that, wasn't as awful during this particular endorsement period as he could be... but certainly was later! This particular drum came to be because Buddy was playing a LOT more small band gigs and studio stuff.. thus.. he wanted a snare drum that would react "quicker" as the air conditioning units in the studios, plus the bright lights needed for TV, wrecked havoc with the tensioning on his normal 14" snare drum. The WFL 3X13 Buddy Rich Be-Bop fit the bill perfectly!... Buddy loved it... but then he didn't. LOL!! He grew tired/bored of the small band/TV format, and wanted to get back in front of a big band, and so he did. He didn't play this model snare drum for very long. Interestingly, I have a FILM of Buddy performing on this drum with a small jazz combo in a TV studio! Very neat!! The drum is indeed, quite crisp.

I have this exact drum in my BR snare drum collection. Mine is a 1950... but they are all the same as nothing changed on this model through 1955. The main thing with these are the lugs. They have NO threaded inserts.. thus .. one must be very careful when changing heads and threading in the tension rods. SUPER EASY to strip out a lug if caution/care is not excercised. WFL/Ludwig recognized this small design flaw, and in later models.. ( post 1955 ) .. the lugs now had threaded inserts. Problem solved! Nice drum for sure! I'll attach a pic of the one from my collection... brothers!!

Tommyp

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Tommy; isn't that one the "fbop" drum?

s/m

Posted on 13 years ago
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Tommy: Youre the man!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for super enhancing my post!!!!!!!!

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From Tommyp

VDB!...I thought I might flesh out your text a bit... you're close though! Buddy actually LIKED William F. Ludwig Sr., and because of that, wasn't as awful during this particular endorsement period as he could be... but certainly was later! This particular drum came to be because Buddy was playing a LOT more small band gigs and studio stuff.. thus.. he wanted a snare drum that would react "quicker" as the air conditioning units in the studios, plus the bright lights needed for TV, wrecked havoc with the tensioning on his normal 14" snare drum. The WFL 3X13 Buddy Rich Be-Bop fit the bill perfectly!... Buddy loved it... but then he didn't. LOL!! He grew tired/bored of the small band/TV format, and wanted to get back in front of a big band, and so he did. He didn't play this model snare drum for very long. Interestingly, I have a FILM of Buddy performing on this drum with a small jazz combo in a TV studio! Very neat!! The drum is indeed, quite crisp.I have this exact drum in my BR snare drum collection. Mine is a 1950... but they are all the same as nothing changed on this model through 1955. The main thing with these are the lugs. They have NO threaded inserts.. thus .. one must be very careful when changing heads and threading in the tension rods. SUPER EASY to strip out a lug if caution/care is not excercised. WFL/Ludwig recognized this small design flaw, and in later models.. ( post 1955 ) .. the lugs now had threaded inserts. Problem solved! Nice drum for sure! I'll attach a pic of the one from my collection... brothers!!Tommyp

...Now, when are you posting this video?? This isn't the TV promo thing with Charlie Parker and Buddy "lip-synching" their parts is it?

Posted on 13 years ago
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From Bharrington

...Now, when are you posting this video?? This isn't the TV promo thing with Charlie Parker and Buddy "lip-synching" their parts is it?

Bharrington!...

I am not posting it.. because .. I said it was on FILM... as in FILM!!! B&W FILM!! Very rare. I would have to have that converted from film to vid/DVD... not impossible mind you, but no chance at the present. So, to answer your question: It is NOT the promo thing with Charlie Parker and Buddy "lip-syching" their parts. That WAS a GREAT guess though Billy!! Here's a "still" that I shot with my digital with the FILM in freeze frame for you to see! Look closely... it's the 3X13 Buddy Rich be-Bop!! It's a little grainy because once again... it's FILM! LOL!!!

Tommyp

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