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Just to add my two cents, I have some of the Martin and pre-Martin Fibes drums including snares, and though the COF drums are certainly bullet-proof, there are a couple seriously weak hardware pieces.

The first is the tom mount, which is a pretty poor design and often fails and is therefore often replaced in the sets you find today.

The second is the SFT strainer, which is a piece of cast metal with a long hole drilled through the weakest part of the casting. It is strong enough if used properly and will last indefinitely if not abused, but there is a tendancy for an inexperienced user to grab it and try to bend it hard expecting it to work like others strainers do. The casting just can't hold under this abuse. This, I believe, is why the SFT strainer has often been replaced with another throwoff in the snares seen today.

The third weakness is the BD legs. They are actually a very cool design and work very well. But they need to be removed from the drum to pack up, and therefore are easy to lose. And they are unlike any other BD legs made (basically hollow chrome pipes with fittings on the ends to fine-tune length) and the different BD sizes use different length legs, so when they have been lost they are often replaced with generics.

Unfortunately the Fibes company stopped making and selling parts (unless someone knows something I don't).

BTW, the Martin Fibes company also made acrylic shelled drums as well as the COF; though I guess BRich never used one so they aren't as collectable. The shells of the old Fibes acrylic drums are stronger than the Ludwigs though, and less apt to crack or spider-web so worth considering if you want a Martin-era Fibes drum.

Posted on 11 years ago
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I have a C.F. Martin era COF Fibes snare. Unfortunately the SFT throw was gone when I got it so it now sports a P-86 (replacing a damaged P-85 that came on the drum). I only paid $60 for the drum so I didn't mind the missing parts too much. It is/was my go to snare drum for outdoor festivals. I also have a slightly earlier one in clear acrylic. That one is intact with the SFT but had the wrong snares on it and didn't really work due to that. I eventually tracked down a set of the particular snares it needed and that solved the problem. I had a chance to buy another COF a year or two ago for $70 but passed on the opportunity. That drum had the SFT but the handle was broken and the whole drum was in poor shape (I probably still should have bought it).

I think I saw a chrome one at Maxwell's Illinois store the other day ( I know he had a clear one) but I think it was tagged NFS (the clear one was marked @ $750). I do see them pop up on ebay from time to time.

You can clearly see one of Buddy's Fibes snares on the cover of the "Rich in London" LP. Apparently the use of these snares drove the Slingerland folks crazy. Somehow Ludwig was able to keep him using their snares after he switched.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Here is a killer 13x7 Maple Fibes that I have.

Love this drum. Walking

www.macdrums.com
Posted on 11 years ago
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I just thought I'd update this with further thoughts on Fibes snares. I'd put mine away and had been using a '69 COB 10-lug Slingerland (with an incorrect marching drum 1st-gen Rapid Strainer) which I rescued from a studio in Philly. Had to restore it with a decent, german-made snare, and of course an original, period-correct Rapid Strainer (while the C.W. on a 10-lug COB Slingy is a Zoomatic, this was clearly sold with a Rapid, as the holes were original). Now, it matches the Slingerland set, period-wise, and is a lovely drum, but: it isn't my Fibes. I took TommyP's advice to heart and decided to start playing with the Fibes again, and use the Slingerland as my back-up. The Fibes snare, whether you are playing rock or jazz, just works and has that wonderfully 'hollow' rim shot that I've always identified with Louie and Buddy (and I tune closer to Louie's snare, a bit tighter). It's also so sensitive that it's a joy to play (like a Dynasonic, I love it at low volumes). Interestingly, I have a drummer friend, who's always played Ludwig snares, who just doesn't like it, and I don't care for his (current favorite) vintage 3-ply wood Slingerland Artist. Go figure. Now, if I could just find a 'workhorse' 6 1/2 x 14 COB Slingerland, I'd be done! But I'll never part with my Fibes.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks for chiming in again Rick. The drum I ended up getting was a COF from the Buddy Rich era, and I'm extremely satisfied with the drum. I had a friend, who bought a Fibes snare because he'd heard the BR story, and ended up not liking it, and selling it. Not knowing the difference, he'd bought one of the Fibes Acrylic drums from a later period, thus the difference in sound. I'm so glad Tommyp was kind enough to explain everything, so I ended up getting the drum that Buddy loved, and for a good price at that.

Thanks again.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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