The guy who sold it said it was a Giant, but I'm not so sure. Is it rare? And can somebody tell me/show me what the correct bolt/nut combination is for the obviously incorrect one. Thanks!
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That is a Rogers Giant snare stand. Swiv-o-matic era, with the desirable "swan-legs"
Actually, no... that's not the Rogers "Giant"... it is in reality the #4009 Sta-Tite. They are similar, but the #4012 "Giant" has the much thicker center post/tube, otherwise they are identical. That is indeed the wrong wingnut, as the Rogers are pretty unmistakable in the looks department.. however .. what is on the stand currently will certainly work! See...
That's why his username is Ludwig-dude and not Rogers-dude! LOL! Just funnin' with ya there LD!
Tommyp
Thanks for verifying that. I think I see that in the 1969 Rogers Parts Catalog. I would still like to replace it (non-original screw and nut) with original if anyone has proper pics. I can see where it would be mistaken for the Giant, but yeah, looks like the center post diameter is the only difference I can see.
Actually, no... that's not the Rogers "Giant"... it is in reality the #4009 Sta-Tite. They are similar, but the #4012 "Giant" has the much thicker center post/tube, otherwise they are identical. That is indeed the wrong wingnut, as the Rogers are pretty unmistakable in the looks department.. however .. what is on the stand currently will certainly work! See...That's why his username is Ludwig-dude and not Rogers-dude! LOL! Just funnin' with ya there LD!Tommyp
Ok, I was close...LOL!
Actually, no... that's not the Rogers "Giant"... it is in reality the #4009 Sta-Tite. They are similar, but the #4012 "Giant" has the much thicker center post/tube, otherwise they are identical. That is indeed the wrong wingnut, as the Rogers are pretty unmistakable in the looks department.. however .. what is on the stand currently will certainly work! Tommyp
Thanks Tommyp and with a little more research, I found this. Mine is obviously the smaller center post/tube model Rogers called "medium weight".
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optiguytom!...
It's called the Sta-Tite... not the medium weight... medium weight is the Sta-Tite "version" of the Giant. They are completely different model numbered stands as you can see, and exactly as I stated in my original post! I play Rogers drums/hardware and have for years, so I'm very familiar with their hardware as all my Rogers sets have their ORIGINAL hardware, which is how I knew that your stand was NOT the #4012 Giant, but rather the #4009 Sta-Tite. The Sta-Tite is the "medium weight version" of the Giant. In referring to this stand one would want to call it the Sta-Tite if one wanted to be correct. One could make the argument that all of this is just semantics.. but .. I thought you did indeed want to know EXACTLY what stand you have here... and now you do, the Sta-Tite! Interestingly,
I have ALL #4009 Sta-Tite snare stands with my Rogers sets, with two of those sets being Buddy Rich models, although later on, the Buddy Rich Celebrity did come with the #4012 Giant in place of the Sta-Tite.
Tommyp
Now, if I could just place my order for those Swivo stands with the advertised prices!
In the catalog... Rogers called them "medium weight" not I. But I sure appreciate your helping me verify this with great information.
Did the original have a nut on the back of that thumb screw or was the bracket just threaded?
optiguytom!...It's called the Sta-Tite... not the medium weight... medium weight is the Sta-Tite "version" of the Giant. They are completely different model numbered stands as you can see, and exactly as I stated in my original post! I play Rogers drums/hardware and have for years, so I'm very familiar with their hardware as all my Rogers sets have their ORIGINAL hardware, which is how I knew that your stand was NOT the #4012 Giant, but rather the #4009 Sta-Tite. The Sta-Tite is the "medium weight version" of the Giant. In referring to this stand one would want to call it the Sta-Tite if one wanted to be correct. One could make the argument that all of this is just semantics.. but .. I thought you did indeed want to know EXACTLY what stand you have here... and now you do, the Sta-Tite! Interestingly,I have ALL #4009 Sta-Tite snare stands with my Rogers sets, with two of those sets being Buddy Rich models, although later on, the Buddy Rich Celebrity did come with the #4012 Giant in place of the Sta-Tite.Tommyp
optiguytom!...
Just WHAT Rogers catalog are you looking at here? LOL! I have two of them.. ( including the coveted 1967 with Buddy Rich and Louis Bellson on the rear cover ) .. and Rogers plainly calls it the #4009 Sta-Tite, which happens to be a "MEDIUM WEIGHT VERSION OF OUR GIANT MODEL". Have a gander at your own post where you are showing a page from an actual Rogers catalog featuring their line up of snare drum stands: The GIANT is #4012, and the STA-TITE is #4009, but nowhere is it actually CALLED or LISTED as the "medium weight"... it's the Sta-Tite! LOL! But you know what?... this horse is now beat to death.. ( although it was fun! ) .. so let me answer your other query:
The bracket on the #4009 Sta-Tite.. ( there it is again! ) .. ahem.. and the #4012 Giant, are both THREADED, no nut on the wing-screw. That was OEM for both those stands.. however .. what a lot of guys do.. ( myself included as I use this hardware professionally ) .. is ADD a locking nut to the threaded wing-screw as it does add some redundancy and gives the adjustment no chance to slip while you're playing, and slip they can and do! What ultimately happens over time is that you end up stripping the wing-screw because as it starts to slip, one of course tightens it a bit more... and a bit more... and a bit, well you get the idea. Eventually it strips out, and ALWAYS when you're on the gig! LOL! Adding the nut stops that cold and retains the integrity of the Rogers wing-screw.
Tommyp
