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Which Rogers Blue Sparkle kit would you buy? Last viewed: 0 seconds ago

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$1995 with snare and original receipt - I'm 45 minutes away from this one.

http://albany.craigslist.org/msg/4535744935.html

or half the price with funky clamp and no snare

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Posted on 10 years ago
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I have a blue sparkle Rogers kit - 20/16/14/12 with a Powertone and also a wood Dyna. Plus I have restored 4 other Rogers kits. Just telling you this so you know I have at least some knowledge on this subject.

1. On any kit worth more than $500, I go for originality. The market is bad enough, without adding issues to the mix, unless it's a steal of a deal to play gigs with.

2. The 14" tom and the good condition Powertone add about $1000 to the value. The wood PT is the best vintage wood snare I've played. I love them. They are super simple and just a great little drum. The 14" floor is lovely too. But I don't play jazz or very small combo gigs so it's not a deal breaker for me.

3. I prefer 12" toms but - you could always get a 12" tom later and that colour is easy to find.

It comes down to budget I suppose. I would be trying to get the price down on the original-with-receipts. But that's the collector talking. And if you have the extra to spend. I am not really into the hoop clamp except for the history and I think that kit is a little overpriced myself. Not by much maybe, but a little. Good luck. PS: Have you played a wood Powertone?

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Posted on 10 years ago
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From troutstudio

I have a blue sparkle Rogers kit - 20/16/14/12 with a Powertone and also a wood Dyna. Plus I have restored 4 other Rogers kits. Just telling you this so you know I have at least some knowledge on this subject. 1. On any kit worth more than $500, I go for originality. The market is bad enough, without adding issues to the mix, unless it's a steal of a deal to play gigs with.2. The 14" tom and the good condition Powertone add about $1000 to the value. The wood PT is the best vintage wood snare I've played. I love them. They are super simple and just a great little drum. The 14" floor is lovely too. But I don't play jazz or very small combo gigs so it's not a deal breaker for me. 3. I prefer 12" toms but - you could always get a 12" tom later and that colour is easy to find. It comes down to budget I suppose. I would be trying to get the price down on the original-with-receipts. But that's the collector talking. And if you have the extra to spend. I am not really into the hoop clamp except for the history and I think that kit is a little overpriced myself. Not by much maybe, but a little. Good luck. PS: Have you played a wood Powertone?

Agree with Trout,....

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1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

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Wood & COB Powertones,
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Posted on 10 years ago
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Thanks. I've always found that the vintage drum market is a leading indicator for the whole economy.

70s Slingy WMP
70s Ludwig Standard Aqua Mist
60s Ludwig Champagne Sparkle Downbeat
and a whole bunch of snares and hardware
Posted on 10 years ago
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The first one looks cleaner and with a wood snare is a better value. US GDP projected downward again (from 2% to now 1.7%), new home sales on the decline and inflation on the rise - so yes I am a little worried about overall market pressures on how they will affect consumer spending.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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That bass in the first set has been drilled for an extra mount. Not good. The 13" tom is an anomaly as well. The snare and floor tom are where the money is, but not for $2000 that's for sure. The floor tom and snare together could bring around $1250. The bass will be seen as a drilled drum when sold by itself, the 13" could do ok on it's own.

A lot of money and trouble for this one, in my opinion...

The second kit really should have a rail mount on the bass, not that clamp. It could be added, however. But the desireability still takes a hit either way. And this one has a 13" tom as well. It could be replaced with a 12, but finding a 12 with a diamond plate would be extremely difficult. Easier to add a collet plate to the bass, find a tom arm, and find a 12 with the usual collet plate. A lot of trouble, for what? And trying to sell the 13 with the diamond plate will be tough; most folks will see it as a parts drum.

Posted on 10 years ago
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I can tell you that if you plan on gigging either kit, the one with the hoop-mounted tom holder probably won't keep you happy for very long...unless you plan to run it on a snare stand. Hoop-mounted toms have a tendency to move around and they tear up your hoops. Plus, I do like matching snare drums with my kits. I guess my vote is for the one on CL, although I do agree with Trout that a 12" rack tom would match nicely. Best of luck, man.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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From DanC

That bass in the first set has been drilled for an extra mount. Not good. The 13" tom is an anomaly as well. The snare and floor tom are where the money is, but not for $2000 that's for sure. The floor tom and snare together could bring around $1250. The bass will be seen as a drilled drum when sold by itself, the 13" could do ok on it's own.A lot of money and trouble for this one, in my opinion...The second kit really should have a rail mount on the bass, not that clamp. It could be added, however. But the desireability still takes a hit either way. And this one has a 13" tom as well. It could be replaced with a 12, but finding a 12 with a diamond plate would be extremely difficult. Easier to add a collet plate to the bass, find a tom arm, and find a 12 with the usual collet plate. A lot of trouble, for what? And trying to sell the 13 with the diamond plate will be tough; most folks will see it as a parts drum.

Looks to me that the bass drum is outfitted with a swivomatic mounting plate where a snare drum would be mounted. My first pro drum set was a Rogers 1961 Holiday set that I ordered with a snare drum mount on the bass drum and on the Holiday model snare drum.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 10 years ago
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From leedybdp

Looks to me that the bass drum is outfitted with a swivomatic mounting plate where a snare drum would be mounted. My first pro drum set was a Rogers 1961 Holiday set that I ordered with a snare drum mount on the bass drum and on the Holiday model snare drum.

It looks kosher doesn't it? Is that what your setup looked like? The 14" floor is nice and clean. My 14" was added afterwards by someone and it's been well played. Nice condition overall on that kit.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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From airborneSFC

The first one looks cleaner and with a wood snare is a better value. US GDP projected downward again (from 2% to now 1.7%), new home sales on the decline and inflation on the rise - so yes I am a little worried about overall market pressures on how they will affect consumer spending.

I think that either of the two drum sets can work out well for an open-minded drummer. I prefer the funkier set with the hoop mount because I already have two suitable Rogers snare drums--one in the same color as the other drums.I also have one of those same Knobby hoop mounts that works very nicely. As for our economy, It all depends on whose numbers you're spinning, and what stance you want to believe. I just read some equally valid numbers that are polar opposites of those you're quoting. The positive or negative take on the economy also depends on which "news" sources are usually on your television and car radio. In this forum, I'm staying neutral on the matter. But, as a retiree, I know which set of number I want to believe.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 10 years ago
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