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WHY do you like vintage drums? Last viewed: 2 minutes ago

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From thornbeck

Are there any current drums which are not assembled by hand? I'm guessing all drums still require manual assembly.Making the shells, cutting the shells, attaching a wrap, cutting bearing edges, cutting the snare beds, drilling the lug holes, installing the lugs, installing heads/hoops/tension rods, all require manual labor. Aside from DW, I don't think there are many drum companies which have robotic/automated drum manufacturing equipment.Check out these cool videos:Ludwig Drums - Drilling A Shellhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWpVQi9nytAPearl Drums Factory Tourhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M31uGnsMRqgDW Factory Tourhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPighlLYd2cYou'll see that DW has very strict QC, which ensures all DW kits are consistent. Sadly, this is one thing you won't get from a vintage kit. :(-Tim

They are still all mass produced that was and is my point.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

Sailing2Your philosophy is rather flawed due to most of the vintage drums are factory mass assembly line produce including your beloved Rogers drums ?

Not sure...but its like a porsche or ferrari being built...the co op between man & machine..

Where there's a human being ...present & overlooking the work being done...

Maybe a simpler time..?

But yes...I do like (appreciate) my Rogers..

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 11 years ago
#22
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All this talk of mass production, you guy's all realise that the Drum industry is one up from a cottage industry?

A drumming enthusiast I know who has been working in the industry for years did some research. He discovered that the chicken flavour of Kiti-Kat alone(yep just the chicken one forget the other flaves) is worth more than our entire beloved Drum and Cymbal industry today!

40's Slingerland Radio King WMP
60's Ludwig Downbeat Silver Spark
70's Ludwig Super Classic White Marine
60's Gretsch RB Champaigne Spark
70's Rogers Big R Black
90's Sonor Hilite (Red maple)
00's DW Collectors Broken Glass
00's DW Jazz Series Tangerine Glass
10's DW Collectors (Acrylic) Matt Black Wrap
10's PDP Concept Wood Hoop kit (Maple)
Proud ambassador of the British Drum Company
Posted on 11 years ago
#23
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That is why I am so in Love with my Ludwig Stainless steel kit they were very labor intensive drums for Ludwig too produce plus limited numbers of them also and they have a sound no other material can produce.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
#24
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Those videos are really cool. Makes me enjoy the vintage sets even more. The process hasn't really changed, they were the originators of the process. Cool! The new drums, after 55 years of technology, really don't sound 55 years better. I love my old Gretsch drums.

The Kitty Kat food example is cool. I know more cat owners than drum owners. My wife came with FIVE of them, and I hate everyone of them except Buzz, he's the smart one.

Posted on 11 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

They are still all mass produced that was and is my point.

Yep, I agree. Factory mass produced by many hands and manual processes. Just like Gretsch USA built drums are still made with some of the original machinery from the 60's.

-Tim

Posted on 11 years ago
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WHY do you like vintage drums?

BECAUSE THEY ARE OLD LIKE METhe Band

Lots of Slingerland drums
70's Pearl Fiberglass Ivory
Posted on 11 years ago
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I grew up in the 50's und 60's beat the hell out of all of my moms pillows and pie tins until I got the set of Sears drums for Christmas.having seen and heard all sorts of drums from the 60's and 70's my mind is stuck there.When money allowedI got the black Laquer Clubdates I always wanted since 1968.I was in heaven until I got the 58 pre-serial Clubdates.I have been informed many times that they are "RE-WRAPPED "!!!!. i REALLY DON'T GIVE A FLYIN' f*** IF THEY ARE ,those are the finest sounding drums,non mic'd that is.A kid now days that plays real drums and guitars doesnt know what he is missing if he doesnt hit some 50's or 60's VINTAGE DRUMS once in his/her life.

58-Blue Diamond-Pearl Clubdates
65-WMP Clubdates
66-Green Sparkle Clubdates
67-Root Beer Clubdates
65-Cream tiger-stripe Pearl Presidents
60's Red Sparkle Artist LTD
60's yellow sparkle Trixon's
??'s Kingston-MIJ--3piece kit/Pearl snare
many vintage pedals,cymbals,parts,ect,ect
Posted on 11 years ago
#28
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I like the history of the players and sometimes the drum history and the LOOK that's connected to vintage drums.

And, if you think about it, the drums of today....and there are some very fine drums out there....will be 'vintage drums' some day and our grandchildren and their children will be buying them.

I personally like Gretsch drums...mostly because I've been around them for 45 years and I love all the history that goes with them. I love my 40's, 50's and 60's Gretsch drums.

I also love the tone and look of my 2011 Champagne Sparkle 18/12/14/4.5x14kit (the snare is a 125th Anniversary)....they too will be 'Vintage' someday.....just a little less vintage than my older ones.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Seems it has pretty much been said.Simply said,for me.I'm vintage,my drums are vintage and the name of my band is Vintage!That's all!

Ludwig collection of sets and pioneer snare drums.
Example of Rogers,Slingerland,Gretsch,Premier and Ajax sets.
Various '60's and '70's US,English and Japanese snare drums.
HELP,NEED MORE SPACE!
Posted on 11 years ago
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