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Writing a feature article about VDF - wanna contribute? Last viewed: 10 hours ago

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Good day to you all!

I study journalism at Charles' University in Prague and for one class, I am supposed to write a feature article. I decided to write about vintage drums world, as I am quite certain that this is a topic with no coverage in Czech media. I might even get into some decent magazine with it, if the article is good.

I have gathered quite a lot of material just from being a member here for five very happy years as it is, but I'd like you guys to have a say, if you wish to, in case you feel that some aspects of the vintage drums world I may have overlooked are important.

So, if you feel like it, please contribute to this thread, while using following questions as topic guidelines. HOWEVER, if you feel like I missed something, tell me about it too!

The questions are as follows:

-When and how did you get into vinatge drums?

-Why do you like vintage instruments?

-Do you like nostalgia and vintage items in general, or do you just prefer vintage drums for some specific purposes (which?)?

-What is the aspect of vintage drums that you like the most (collecting, historical research, restorations, playing, etc.)?

-Do you consider vintage drums a hobby, a business, or a science field? Or something else?

-Do you have any stories from the vintage drum world or this forum you'd like to share?

-How do you feel about the community and the market and what do you think is to become of it?

-What else would you like to let „outsiders“ know about vintage drums?

I appreciate any input and I thank you deeply for your time.

Rock on!

Sysl krysu nenahradi!

-196?-72 6ply White Oyster Amati
-1960s 3ply Red Sparkle Amati
- Zildjian, Paiste, Zyn, Istanbul

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Posted on 10 years ago
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-When and how did you get into vintage drums?

I started playing in 1963. Drums that were new to me then, are now considered vintage.

-Why do you like vintage instruments?

For the look, sound, mojo and construction/design of the instruments.

-Do you like nostalgia and vintage items in general, or do you just prefer vintage drums for some specific purposes (which?)?

Not so much nostalgia, it's mostly for the sound. I don't like the boinky sound of modern drum kits.

-What is the aspect of vintage drums that you like the most (collecting, historical research, restorations, playing, etc.)?

All of the above with an emphasis on playing.

-Do you consider vintage drums a hobby, a business, or a science field? Or something else?

Drumming and my drums is a part of who I am.

-Do you have any stories from the vintage drum world or this forum you'd like to share?

The story is the guys... great bunch of people here. I love being a part of it.

-How do you feel about the community and the market and what do you think is to become of it?

See my last response re: how I feel about the community. Markets are cyclical in nature. They are up one year, down the next and then back again. I think we're at the start of an upswing. I hope the market continues to improve.

-What else would you like to let „outsiders“ know about vintage drums?

I think the most important aspect is the community, the cameraderie. I've made a few really good friends here.

Break a leg with your article, Gilnar! Hope you get it published!!! :D

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
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Congratulations !! hope this is of help to your article.

When and how did you get into vintage drums?

I saw Gene krupa and Buddy Rich on TV I knew I wanted to be a drummer when I was very young. I started playing guitar in 1964 right before the Beatles invasion, After that night on the Ed Sullivan show with the Beatles, The guitar took a back seat to the drums. I went into the Jr High band program and was the Head drummer in our drum section of 5 of us. went through the High school band program and then college.

Why do you like vintage instruments?

It comes from the history of the instrument and it's place through History. I like the construction of vintage drums. materials, and the factories that produced them, and the people. The tone of vintage instruments and playing them.

Do you like nostalgia and vintage items in general, or do you just prefer vintage drums for some specific purposes (which?)?,

Yes I love the nostalgia of all vintage items, Musical instruments etc.

What is the aspect of vintage drums that you like the most (collecting, historical research, restorations, playing, etc.)? All of the above they are all one and the same to me, But I love playing them the most.

Do you consider vintage drums a hobby, a business, or a science field? Or something else? A business, a living history lesson, and yes a science field.

Do you have any stories from the vintage drum world or this forum you'd like to share?

My vintage drum beginning started with Not so Modern drummer which precedes this drum forum by many years. This forum the VDF is in my opinion the best vintage drum forum on the net. As in all of society their are good people and bad ones you know whom to associate with and whom not to. I restored a large 1930 Radio king kit back in 1998. It was owned by Buddy Harmon who is the most recorded drummer to date, Buddy got this kit according to his son in the late 50's, It took me 2 years to restore it. I was playing at a large club here in my home state, One of the roadies of the club came up to me and asked could his father play mt drums, I replied does he play drums? the roadie said he may have built these drums, I told him yes please I'd love for him to play them. We played our 3 sets that night. The roadie walks up to me after the show with his dad who is in his late 70's the Older fellow is crying, he tells me I may of had painted the duco paint job on my kit. I told him these are 30's not 50's models. The old fellow laughed and said hell I would be a 100 to of painted this kit. He did play my kit and he left thanking me. As he was from the Old Slingerland plant.

How do you feel about the community and the market and what do you think is to become of it?

I think as a whole vintage market it is down and has been for sometime. When I 1st got into vintage drums prices were higher, of course there are some drums that are and will not be affected.

What else would you like to let „outsiders“ know about vintage drums?

It bothers me to no end to see original drums altered, with the attitude they are my drums I can do as I see fit, No they aren't someone owned them before you someone will own them after you. ! We as in all material items are merely renting them.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
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I like the nostalgia. The fact that maybe a favorite artist in history used such an item. It's rarity, quality and craftsmanship may be factors. I would consider it a hobby by many mainly for it's nostalgia which may also help create business. I sometimes like the challenge of research and restoration or helping one do so. In the vintage world, it's amazing how much knowledge, humor and kindness people are willing to share. I'm greatful.

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BUMP!

C'mon guys! One of our international forum members asks for a little help with some research for an article and just a couple of guys respond?

WTF?

Get on the stick, boys! Take a few minutes to answer a few questions and help the brother out.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
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I love all drums, but there is something special about vintage drums. I like the fact that the big four companies back in the day were all in America. Two of the biggest were from or around my birth place of Chicago. I've heard that aged wood retains that special sound through the years, you just can't duplicate that with newer drums.

Watch the language John, could be a kid lurking around.Walking

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-When and how did you get into vinatge drums?

About 2 years ago. Dissatisfied with the sound of my modern set, I started looking around and trying stuff. Came across a Rogers Big R. Discovered the difference between thin and thick shells. Found the sound I was looking for.

-Why do you like vintage instruments?

Looks and sound. And in my case having to work on them. Make something new from something old

-Do you like nostalgia and vintage items in general, or do you just prefer vintage drums for some specific purposes (which?)?

I like vintage instruments and rock. Cars houses etc. also. To me, there s more love in the design.

-What is the aspect of vintage drums that you like the most (collecting, historical research, restorations, playing, etc.)?

Playing, restoring, assembling, recreating. Not a purist, not an expert. Like making stuff.

-Do you consider vintage drums a hobby, a business, or a science field? Or something else?

Hobby. Definately

-Do you have any stories from the vintage drum world or this forum you'd like to share?

Nope, sorry

-How do you feel about the community and the market and what do you think is to become of it?

Community is nice, I like it here. Don't know much about the market

-What else would you like to let „outsiders“ know about vintage drums?

Vintage and custom drum projects:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php...2305272732%3A6
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Gilnar,

Excellent topic for an article! As you know, so much is written about vintage drums, but almost all of these articles and publications are written for, and targeted toward us, vintage drum owners. It's wonderful that you're taking the challenge of presenting the collecting, restoring, and playing of vintage drums to a general public who may not even be aware that vintage (and antique) drums are collected just like vintage furniture, cars, coins, books, dinnerware, etc., and for the very same reasons.

My input:

1. I never chose to collect vintage drums; the drums I bought in my youth simply turned into vintage drums without me really noticing. Through my years of playing, I never looked to replace my 1960's and 1970's drums with new drums because brand new drums offered absolutely no musical advantage over the older instruments. As has been already mentioned, in most cases new drums possess a harsher, almost unpleasant tone compared to the better-crafted, aged wood of a vintage instrument (why do most non-musicians readily accept this fact when it pertains to priceless vintage violins but scoff at the idea when it pertains to an instrument which you hit with a stick?)

2. Although the sound of our vintage drums can fit well into any modern music, many of us play the music from our youth, and that music should be played on vintage instruments in order to capture the true sound of a past era. The music of the Beatles should not be played with modern drums and Marshall amplifiers. I have restored a bass drum and snare drum from the early turn of the century just to play ragtime music. Some modern drummers would argue that these antiques sound horrible compared to modern drums, but they are missing the point... the music sounds more authentic because it is being played on the same type of instruments it was originally played. For this same reasoning, there are countless Chamber groups throughout the world playing Bach and Vivaldi on original Baroque instruments.

3. The market and valuation of vintage drums is of no interest to me. This is a hobby for me, not a business. In the world of all antiques and collectables, we see trends and fads come and go, and prices fluctuate up and down. The more scarce our instruments and parts become, the more we have to expect to spend on them to restore and maintain them; however, owning vintage drums is still an affordable and realistic pursuit for most working and amateur drummers.

I could go on but I'd probably exceed your word limit on the actual article. Good luck!!

Mike

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
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Well spoken, Mike! :D

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
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