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Slingerland Radio king: snare drum Last viewed: 46 minutes ago

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Hello Everyone,

I recently acquired a Slingerland Radio King Kit. I've been searching online trying to get some history/identification help. I'm curious if anyone could help identify the snare drum for this particular kit. To my understanding it is definitely part of the radio king series but I haven't seen the lug configuration as this before.

I believe the kit is from the 1951 according to the badge on the kick drum. The other drums do not have airholes or badges on them. To my knowledge i understand that there were maybe some steps skipped in that year as far as the making process went. I could tell inside the snare how the inside ring was not totally routed out by the screws.

My question is the snare has 16 super lugs that are staggered or alternating. It is a 5.5x14 in size. I was just curious if this was just an accidental make or purposeful? I can't seem to locate another photo of a snare that looks like it or has the pattern of the lugs like that. The rest of the kits sizes are kick: 20x14 Floor tom: 16x16, Tom Tom: 13x9.

Thanks for the help guys!

-Jeff C

Posted on 9 years ago
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Welcome to the Forum! That is a great score of a kit.

That snare might be a cut down. I have a 50's Radioking snare and none of the edges look like that where the screws are placed. Even on my 30's Broadcaster shell, that I am cutting down myself. Even the photo with the butt plate, it doesn't look even.

Found a few photos online. One is the inside with the same lugs, the other is with offset lugs, so they did do that. But I don't think they would ever route the re-ring. Also found one with the same strainer system, single lug, but still no cuts in the ring.

Now I don't necessarily know if this was a cut down from a tom, could have been a deeper snare that was cut down. But to me, it shows signs of being that.

18 Kits & 40+ snares..
Not a Guru, just addicted to drums

- Jay
Posted on 9 years ago
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Jay is right on his assessment. It was probably a 8x14" that was sadly cut down,

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Posted on 9 years ago
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From ARCHxANGEL

Welcome to the Forum! That is a great score of a kit.That snare might be a cut down. I have a 50's Radioking snare and none of the edges look like that where the screws are placed. Even on my 30's Broadcaster shell, that I am cutting down myself. Even the photo with the butt plate, it doesn't look even.Found a few photos online. One is the inside with the same lugs, the other is with offset lugs, so they did do that. But I don't think they would ever route the re-ring. Also found one with the same strainer system, single lug, but still no cuts in the ring.Now I don't necessarily know if this was a cut down from a tom, could have been a deeper snare that was cut down. But to me, it shows signs of being that.

You're cutting down a Broadcaster?!?!

Posted on 9 years ago
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I unfortunately had to. In between the bottom two re-rings, at some point the shell had been punctured. There was no way to properly fix the lack of wood. I had never realized how bad it was until the wrap was removed. The wrap had been stapled where the damage was, hiding what monster truly lurked beneath. The lower half was in really rough shape. And at some point when the original lugs were taken off and swapped with MIJ lugs, because they weren't the same exact size, they pulled the shell outwards on the lower half. I didn't want to cut mine down, but sadly there wasn't much I could do to avoid it. Under any other circumstance I wouldn't have cut the shell. If it was 100%, I wouldn't dream of it.

Also not 100% on it being a Broadcaster. I think based on the strainer It's a Universal model.

18 Kits & 40+ snares..
Not a Guru, just addicted to drums

- Jay
Posted on 9 years ago
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Might not be a cut-down - I have a 8X12 tom with the same kind of cutting into the re-ring, in this case for the dampers. The difference from the ones pictured is the massive re-ring - anything beyond lugs on the shell and you're going to have to cut into that thing...

I'll post some pics tomorrow...

Mitch

Posted on 9 years ago
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[QUOTE=DownTownFarmer;368526]Might not be a cut-down - I have a 8X12 tom with the same kind of cutting into the re-ring, in this case for the dampers. The difference from the ones pictured is the massive re-ring - anything beyond lugs on the shell and you're going to have to cut into that thing...

That's what is still confusing to me.. is if it was a cut down I'm wondering still about the lugs because wouldn't the spacing have to be different from a 7x14 than a 5.5x14 and if they cut it down wouldn't they be off for the original lugs and screws? maybe not but i feel like if you cut just one side down it would be off and looking at the wrap around the edges there does not appear to be any cut signs. Unless whoever did the cut down did a perfect job.

Posted on 9 years ago
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The one thing for me that's striking is the off set lugs. You'd think with a shallow shell they would have gone with center lugs. Anyway you can post some more photos of the snare? Might sound tedious, but if you could get close to the wrap on the " supposed cut side " maybe something may give it away.

18 Kits & 40+ snares..
Not a Guru, just addicted to drums

- Jay
Posted on 9 years ago
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I'm saying 100% it's a cut down. The reinforcement hoop is big like it's from a tom shell of that era. I have a few radio king snares and not a single one has large reinforcement hoops. Plus, the hoop that is cut into looks larger than the lower one. Maybe it's camera angle.. imho

jason

Posted on 9 years ago
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From Jefflc20

i feel like if you cut just one side down it would be off

This is of course true, so if it was cut down, it was cut down at the factory. This is of course possible, as it was human beings working there. :) Or maybe someone wanted a big re-ring on top thinking it would help them really crank the batter...

Mitch

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