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1948 Gretsch Broadkaster Snare...need suggestions and answers. Last viewed: 1 minute ago

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Here's another picture of a Gretsch part that I soaked in vinegar. Don't leave it too long, because it is corrosive. Best of all, a gallon of vinegar is super cheap!

How long did you leave this in? That looks great, I've been fighting with some brass washers and other parts for my 1965 Ludwig Super Classic's re-build. I gott try that!

1965 Ludwig Super Classic WMP (22-13-16)
1965 Club Date/Downbeat Combo Blue Sparkle
Cleveland Rogers COB Powertone snare
1965 Ludwig Supra Snare
Posted on 13 years ago
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From DolFan54

I like drums that show their age. I vote for keeping it original! Nice score too and I know they sound great. I still miss mine!

I think the problem is that just using the drum,lead paint will be flaking off it after a while.

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 13 years ago
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Yeah I like the old school look too. But I think stripping it is ultimately gonna happen. There are chips falling all over the place from taking the drum hardware off. The Mrs's just made me put it out back after I mentioned lead and she saw flakes every where. Plus I do want to play it without making a mess every time it gets hit.

Anyone know if they offered these drums in natural wood finish back in 48 ?

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 13 years ago
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First strip, then depending on the condition of the bare wood, refinish clear, re-enamel or wrap. If you decide to wrap, first make sure heads will fit over the added thickness.

Those Broadcaster snares would seem to be under-valued at the moment, as compared to RKs, Rogers or later RBs, which is just stupid!.

I paid $495 on ebay for mine a year ago and consider it a super bargain. The pics will show it's condition.

The same drum as mine... with re-rings... recently went for $315, though it was apparently not in quite as good condition as mine, judging from the seller's poor pics.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/260837390166?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_500wt_1057

Given the poor condition of your enamel, I don't believe refinishing will detract from the value or lessen it's salability. In fact, a high quality re-enameling would probably increase it's value.

They are great sounding drums. Of my three RBs... 14x4 and 14x5.5 six ply.... my 1947 6.5 three ply is my favorite. In fact, preferable to any of my three RKs

I acquired the 1939 RK shown below already refinished. A really superb job... possibly by a high-end auto refinisher... indeed better than the original.

Ron

Posted on 13 years ago
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From skapunk_edge

Yeah I like the old school look too. But I think stripping it is ultimately gonna happen. There are chips falling all over the place from taking the drum hardware off. The Mrs's just made me put it out back after I mentioned lead and she saw flakes every where. Plus I do want to play it without making a mess every time it gets hit.Anyone know if they offered these drums in natural wood finish back in 48 ?

I can see that the paint is about to fall off just by looking at it!

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 13 years ago
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Calling in the stripper ! Thanks for the input and I will make sure to post the results.

Thx,

D

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 13 years ago
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Good plan!

Kenny Clarke with his 6.5 Broadcaster:

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From skapunk_edge

Yeah I like the old school look too. But I think stripping it is ultimately gonna happen. There are chips falling all over the place from taking the drum hardware off. The Mrs's just made me put it out back after I mentioned lead and she saw flakes every where. Plus I do want to play it without making a mess every time it gets hit.Anyone know if they offered these drums in natural wood finish back in 48 ?

According to the 1941 catalog they offered it in "Dark Mahogany, Duco-white or Duco-ebony, or Two-Tone Duco (any colors), or Pearl finishes (for extra $)". So it looks like Dark Mahogany stain would be the way to go if you want an original unpainted finish.

I wouldn't recommend sanding the finish off - if you do that you'll need to worry about a face mask like Blair suggested. But any of the chemical strippers should work well - just make sure you don't let the chemicals run into the interior of the drum through the holes.

Could you measure the spacing between the throwoff holes? I'm curious if it's the same as the later renown throwoff?

Posted on 13 years ago
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How long did you leave this in? That looks great, I've been fighting with some brass washers and other parts for my 1965 Ludwig Super Classic's re-build. I gott try that!

about 30 minutes. I put a bunch of rusty parts in a Gatorade bottle about 1/3 full of full strength vinegar. I shook the mixture while running back and forth for a pizza. The results were amazing.

jim

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'68 Ludwig Ruby Red Strata
'68 Ludwig Mod Orange
'58 Gretsch Starlight Sparkle
'69 Ludwig Clubdate BDP
'60s Ludwig Clubdate Black Lacquer / Nickel
'67 Trixon Speedfire Red
COB Ludwig Supra
Many projects
Bunch o snares
Posted on 13 years ago
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From 4MoreYearsOhNo

According to the 1941 catalog they offered it in "Dark Mahogany, Duco-white or Duco-ebony, or Two-Tone Duco (any colors), or Pearl finishes (for extra $)". So it looks like Dark Mahogany stain would be the way to go if you want an original unpainted finish.I wouldn't recommend sanding the finish off - if you do that you'll need to worry about a face mask like Blair suggested. But any of the chemical strippers should work well - just make sure you don't let the chemicals run into the interior of the drum through the holes.Could you measure the spacing between the throwoff holes? I'm curious if it's the same as the later renown throwoff?

Did a combo of stripping and sanding. Strip first then some light sanding down the home stretch. A buddy of mine had a great mask so I should live to play this thing.

The spacing on the throw off holes is 1 inch between the top and bottom holes (from the center of the screws) and an inch and a half from. Thanks for letting me know about the colors offered I think I am going to go the dark mahogony route.

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 13 years ago
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