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I got an idea, lets just watch and see if the kit sells for 8k. If it does than it does, wont mean more will but then you can say you seen a rare kit go for a high price. The problem here is you can't compare brands. Like there is no point. It is like comparing a Mustang and a Chevelle. There both cars but there not the same thing.

Saying ludwig is the workmans drum is kind of true. Everyone knows about them, course on the other hand I personally like the ludwig/wfl kits. I would take them over others easy. (Exception being that slingerland kit in WMP. Thats NICEEE!!)

I wonder because I am new to this how you judge what a kit is worth? Like this kit. How you you begin to appraise it to come up with what it should be in the current market rather than a guessing game as what other brands and such have sold for?? Also my final question is about the snare, shouldn't the snare match the rest of the kit??? Idk

Posted on 13 years ago
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There aren't any similar Jazzettes to compare with this one, though. This one is exceptional.

Again, as to what it's worth....No one can truly say. On one day it's worth $6, 8, 10K...and on another day, it isn't. This is an exceptional kit and current market values don't apply to things like this

It's not a fool's gamble if you have the money and have been waiting for the perfect (nearly) example of one. Here it is....out of the ether. Certainly, no one would buy a kit like that for $8K to flip it for a profit. No. At that price, it's a keeper and a player and a drum set to covet for life.

Supposedly, the snare drum IS the matching snare drum...not in a sense of the finish, but in a sense of the badge number/date sequence. Supras were/are a very common drum that Ludwig included with many configurations. It is the proper drum to complete a 1967 Jazzette. This one is, (again, supposedly) original to the kit.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I'm going to have to buy this kit. I just noticed the date stamped on the inside of the shell is my birthday.Party:p

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Posted on 13 years ago
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How much would it cost you (anyone) to get what is being offered here for $8K?

What would a new Craviotto set (with snare drum), DW flat base stands/pedals and Paiste cymbals sell for, today? And what would be as cool about it as is with this Jazzette? And, it's not just about the money, because ANYONE with the money can own a completely custom Craviotto (or any brand) drum set, but only one person can own a Jazzette like this one. It's the exclusivity that's part of the appeal. Is $8K so bad when you'd basically be the ONLY "kid on the block" to have one?

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From mendozart

I'm going to have to buy this kit. I just noticed the date stamped on the inside of the shell is my birthday.Party:p

DO IT, MAN!!!

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From O-Lugs

There aren't any similar Jazzettes to compare with this one, though. This one is exceptional. Again, as to what it's worth....No one can truly say. On one day it's worth $6, 8, 10K...and on another day, it isn't. This is an exceptional kit and current market values don't apply to things like thisIt's not a fool's gamble if you have the money and have been waiting for the perfect (nearly) example of one. Here it is....out of the ether. Certainly, no one would buy a kit like that for $8K to flip it for a profit. No. At that price, it's a keeper and a player and a drum set to covet for life.Supposedly, the snare drum IS the matching snare drum...not in a sense of the finish, but in a sense of the badge number/date sequence. Supras were/are a very common drum that Ludwig included with many configurations. It is the proper drum to complete a 1967 Jazzette. This one is, (again, supposedly) original to the kit.

Oh you could buy that and sell that thing easy. Not right away but imagine how rare it will be in 40-50 or 100 years. A kit that rare to begin with and adding time to it, heck yea it will be valuable money wise and the fact you have one amazing kit and piece of history.

I agree its not about money, its about the kit and what it stands for. Money shouldn't be the first and only thing on your mind with this. I can get a whole bunch of craigslist sets for 8k lol. Having one this unique would be great though. Defiantly a player kit that you take care of too. I'm surprised others out there think like I do hah.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Yeah, man! I'm watching the series called "Pickers" on Netflix....it's a couple of guys who drive around and look through other people's "junk" and offer them money for it. I watch it and see an old, beat up liquor store sign and think, "It's worthless!" and then they pay hundreds of dollars (if not thousands) for it and then RE-sell it to someone else for a profitable margin.

Old, broken toys, stuffed animals...all of it is worthless, to me, but valuable to them, and, inevitably, someone else. When I see a beautiful, complete and correct Jazzette like this one, I know that someone already has been loving it and keeping it safe and sound for many years. It's been well cared for and this is what it's worth to the seller at this moment in time -on Ebay.

And in regards to an earlier post...Yes, it's true that Gretsch, Slingerland and Ludwig, etc., are all separate markets and have their separate following. It is that following that will ultimately determine the respective values. To clarify my earlier point, I want to say that if the Gretsch followers can determine that a bop kit should sell for that much money (and more), then it's always possible for Ludwig, Slingerland or Rogers to do the same thing. They are all drums from the same eras and they are all comparable in many ways, after all. They are all vintage, American-made drum sets, for example.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Wish as we may, it just isn't going to happen. Slingerland Jet kits in absolute perfect condition will not hit 8 grand. Neither will Ludwig Jazzettes regardless of the condition. Think about that same kit in the same condition with a Mod Orange wrap from 1970. Would it go for 8 or 9 grand? Absolutely not. For proof, you can check out several vintage sites who sold Mod Orange kits. At the start, the price was quite high. Eventually, it was lowered into the realm of reason and it sold. Mod Orange is one of the hottest Ludwig finishes going. But even with that wrap, it didn't get into stupid money.

No, we do not have to dream about Slingerland Jet kits exploding in worth. Nor do we have to dream the same about Ludwig. No matter how much we want it, it just isn't going to happen.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I've been reading everyone's opinions with interest! Like many, when I first saw the listing, I felt there was no way this kit could command 8k+, regardless of rarity and/or condition. So, I decided to look through my 1000's of drum pictures I've downloaded from eBay over the years. Lo and behold, I found a Jazzette kit, minus snare drum and hardware, that may provide some insight as to what these kits go for.

As you can see, it is in Oyster Black and comes with all original heads and foot pedal. The condition is certainly worn to say the least! Yet, when all was said and done, this little Jazzette sold on 8-1-09 for $4,550!!!!

So, is 8k+ a reasonable asking price for the Thermogloss Jazzette? Let's see what happens!

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I have said MANY times in this thread that this kit probably won't sell on Ebay. If it doesn't, it still doesn't mean anything, in my opinion. It really is a set that needs to be brokered among the elite collector crowd....maybe a nice recording studio, etc.

So it's not wishful thinking that compels me to say that this drum set is worth $8K. It's the fact that this kit is one of only TWO completely complete Jazzettes I've ever seen and it's all original and in good shape.

As far as Sling Jets go, I would have to say that IF the same kind of condition applied, then it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to sell a Jet for that kind of money, too.

But slapping a small paragraph up on EBay is very likely to not mean much when you're trying to find a buyer for something like this.

I honestly don't care if it sells or not at that price. Very few people are privy to own a Jazzette and no one I know (including ME) has ever seen an example of a Jazzette as nice as this one.

As far as rare wraps and all that....Again, it doesn't apply to a Jazzette from 1967. The two most desirable finishes for a Jazzette from 1967 are Thermogloss Mahogany and Thermogloss Maple. A rare wrap collector collects the wrap and the drums are incidental to the wrap. That's not what's happening here. This is the type of drum set that goes to the drum set collector.

I'm hoping that it does sell, but again, I'm not going to be at all surprised if it doesn't sell. But is it worth it? You bet it is! It's worth more than any comparable modern kit. Of course, some people won't consider spending that kind of money for anything but a brand new kit.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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