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1967 JMCD Dynatone SOUNDFILE/VIDEO Last viewed: 2 hours ago

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Thought I would take a moment and record a VIDEO SOUNDFILE of the JMCD "Dynatone" snare drum built on a 1967 Rogers COB/5 line Dynasonic. Again, this is a JMCD special 5/5 shell, precision bearing edges, and Rogers Dynasonic beds. Please have a quick read:

I normally do NOT put up vids of any kind, but in this case I thought it would be the best way to HEAR what these beautiful snare drums sound like. Goes without saying, tuning/tension... head choice ... sticks ... and actual individual technique factor into the final analysis, but... you will more than get the idea! I stayed with straight jazz feels as those really allow the snare drum's every nuance to be heard. There are some random fills and flurries here and there which allow a little more sound pressure to let the drum open up. Medium swing to start, then a bit more up. You be the judge! Final disclaimer: In no way is my playing intended to impress!, it's more of a DEMO of this fine instrument. Hope you ENJOY! [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Eh-xWM_9Q"]Joe Montineri JMCD 5X14 "Dynatone" SD Demo - YouTube[/ame]

Tommyp

Posted on 10 years ago
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That drum is very nice and clear and with the warmth of a wood drum, and your playing is amazing, sounds like you've done your homework! I wonder how it compares to a normal wood dynasonic?

I love the jazz era
Posted on 10 years ago
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From Olddrumgeek

That drum is very nice and clear and with the warmth of a wood drum, and your playing is amazing, sounds like you've done your homework! I wonder how it compares to a normal wood dynasonic?

ODG!

First, THANK YOU for the very kind words!, and... I can answer your question quite easily, because...

... all I have played as my MAIN snare drums for the past 12 years or so have been Rogers wood Dynasonics! I have owned 5 of them, but only have TWO currently: a 1967, and a 1968. The 1967 is my MAIN snare drum as out of all of them that I have owned/played, that drum is THE ONE .. and .. that "can be" the issue with 60's era wood Dynasonic's: They aren't consistent from drum to drum! Joe Montineri has me play his prototypes as he trusts that I know these snare drums cold, and truthfully, I do! Truth be told, he based his "Dynatone" off my 1968 wood/WMP Dynasonic. That drum was his model, so to speak. Anyway... the main difference with Joe's Dynatone and an original Rogers Dynasonic is... CONSISTENCY! I have played THREE of his to date with two of them going to members on the VDF!, with the drum shown here being the third. EVERY ONE has played/sounded the same! It's amazing really. I set them up the exact same way I would head/tension mine... and play 'em. I have gigged two of these, and they deliver across the board! So...

That isn't to say that an original Dynasonic isn't good... not at all! They are incredible snare drums once you understand them, but... these are completely and totally consistent, which "can be" hit or miss with an actual wood Dynasonic. The hardware donor/transfer also has a bit to do with it of course. Nice STRAIGHT hardware, snare frame, wires, etc. all factor in.

THANKS for your comments and question!

Tommyp

Posted on 10 years ago
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Yes nice snare indeed, Nice tuning too on the entire kit, plus nice playing. I always pictured you as mainly a Trad Grip Guy, (Maybe due to the music style you are know to be playing I guess)..

Great demo

Cheers John

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Posted on 10 years ago
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From longjohn

Yes nice snare indeed, Nice tuning too on the entire kit, plus nice playing. I always pictured you as mainly a Trad Grip Guy, (Maybe due to the music style you are know to be playing I guess)..Great demoCheers John

John!

GLAD you enjoyed!, and THANK YOU for the very nice words! Regarding my choice of grip: I did start with traditional grip on the demo!, then switched over to match. Thing is, I can play both, as I started with traditional and didn't start moving over to match 'till I had already been playing for 12 years! I had joined this band back in the mid 70's that was playing a steady diet of Oakland style FUNK, and match supplied so much more in the way of power, which is what I needed... then. But, nuance and sensitivity can be had with matched grip of course!, so I stayed with it, and use it for just about everything now. I still prefer traditional for rolls, both press and open. They're cleaner for me with traditional!

Yes indeed... that is a nice snare drum! It does blend well with the rest of the drums too. I'm working with the Sinatra Show Saturday, and ah... I'm thinking I HAVE to play this snare drum on that gig!

Tommyp

Posted on 10 years ago
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Tommyp!

The Dynatone sounds great! Very crisp and distinct. From your video, I can now tell that I need to tighten my batter head a bit more than my current tension. Your playing makes me want to go play my snare NOW...but it's 40 miles away and I'm not sure when I'll be visiting it again!

Oh yeah...you're not too shabby of a drummer, either! Thanks for posting!

-Mark

Posted on 10 years ago
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Thanks Tommy for your posting of this wonderful sounding snare and loved how you let us hear how she sings with different stroke volumes.Really does say it all about this snare and even more perfect is that they are hand made with consistency.And by the way...very tasty playing and fluid soloing.Wonderful demonstration of it`s acoustic neuonces and i may be looking into one of these."If it Ain`t Got That Swing it Don`t Mean A Thing" and that snare has that and more...

Wayne

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Thank you so much for that soundfile! Great! May I ask what heads are on the drum? Ambassador both sides?

That snare drum sounds like a dream, and your playing has already been praised.

Best,

Magnus

Posted on 10 years ago
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idrum4fun/Mark!

THANKS Mark!, and glad you enjoyed, but then again... you've got one!!! Yours is the FIRST of the series, which is really neat! Regarding batter head tension: THAT, as I know you know, is completely personal/subjective. A tighter batter tension works for my technique/style of playing, and the really cool thing is: The drum does NOT choke!!! A major plus for JM's precison bearing edges! The Dynasonic is such an articulate drum, that one can't hide with it, and by that I mean every stroke is heard. There is no "fluffing" on this model! Pure sensitivity all way out to the edges, and NO CHOKING, even at tighter batter tension. It's no wonder BR liked this drum... while he was with Rogers anyway!

Wayne Brown!

THANKS Wayne! You being the Rogers guy you are, well... that's a nice nod to JMCD if you like this snare drum! Definitely the way to go if one wanted to play/own a wood Dynasonic and NOT lay out all the cash on an original... which today, is even more difficult given folks income and economy. The key here is JMCD's special 5/5 shell, but again, with a consistency from drum to drum that is generally unheard of in a Rogers wood Dynasonic. THANK YOU too for the nice words on my playing too. FLUID and trying to play SMOOTH with everything else in place is the key... and that's what I practice. THANKS!

Magnus!

THANK YOU! Glad you enjoyed too! Regarding what heads I have on this drum: Again, completely personal choice, as there is no right or wrong here!, and... one's playing style/technique also factor in, as I think you might agree! With that said: I have been playing the REMO Vintage Series coated heads since they came out, and I LOVE them! You will be surprised when I tell you that the top/batter head on this snare drum is a REMO coated Vintage Emperor. The beauty of that is, because it's the Vintage series, this coated Emperor is a THINNER mil than a regular Emperor, which gives me plenty of articulation and sensitivity, including brushes!, yet enables slightly tighter/higher batter tension, yet still retains some nice "thickness" to the sound, if you know what I mean. Rim shots are a dream! Resonant is the standard REMO Ambassador snare side, but also tensioned up a bit. Hope this was of some use to you! THANKS again!

Tommyp

Posted on 10 years ago
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Tommy,

So glad you had success uploading this demo. Thanks for sharing that. As you know, my JMCD Dynatone is set up with that interesting batter head Joe put on it, and I tune mine a touch lower than yours, but like you said, there's no one "right" way to set these up. It's all just a matter of personal preference and taste. I'll be playing mine this summer in small indoor venues as well as outdoors in open-air parks, so I might have to experiment with different batter heads and degrees of muffling (Gasp! OMG. Yes I do apply a little tone control. How sacrilegious).

I don't know if it's necessary to point this out, but a reminder to everyone... all these shared sound files, whether they be drums or cymbals, are only as good as the speakers you're hearing them through. I already know exactly what this very drum should sound like, but it sounded like tin coming through the little crappy speaker of my Galaxy SIII phone. Just a word of caution when you're listening to a sound file of something very delicate or distinctive which you're considering purchasing (like a cymbal); listen to the file through a couple different computers or sets of speakers. You might be surprised at the differences and wonder which sound is the true, accurate one.

Mike

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 10 years ago
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