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I hear ya long John. The other drums should come back to life okay but that kick is going to be tough. I have already read some interesting approaches to the issue but none seem really full proof. I will be filling all the holes with the dowel and wood glue method on the kick. May or may not fill the holes on the floor tom since this will be a players kit at best. I'll keep posting my progress.

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 11 years ago
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here's a pic of my 12x15 clubdate floor tom in a kit. its the one that I mentioned that someone had already drilled it for classic mounts. I just found some in nickel to match the rest of the kit and used straight clubdate legs to make it look like I wanted ..

mike

Posted on 11 years ago
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That kit looks slick! Dig the 15!

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 11 years ago
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Here is the the whole family stripped of their hardware and freshly bathed:

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/2014-02-28100025_zps6e99fc2b.jpg[/IMG]

I decided to tackle the 12 inch tom first and discovered that the years of storage in the desert made the adhesive hard and I was able to chip it away pretty easy like rock candy. Might be a good thing if I can avoid using a ton of chemicals.

The down side is that there are some silver flakes flying of the drum as well because this thing is pretty dried out. Looks fine from about a foot away but up close you can see some very small cracks in the wrap. Some of it may be adhesive sitting on the wrap weird that may come off but either way I think it will look just fine for a player kit.

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/2014-02-28100058_zps72ef36ca.jpg[/IMG]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/2014-02-28102710_zpsb25d0c82.jpg

Wrap actually split at the seam where it tucks into the scarf joint so I will need to re-glue and clamp. Once again for player should still look good enough.

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/2014-02-28102723_zps59e2850e.jpg[/IMG]

More updates to come!

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 11 years ago
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As long as the back edge of that bass drum is in round... consider cutting down the drum making it a 12"x22"!

Remove the re-ring from the front end and cut off an inch or more of that badly out of round (and wavy) front edge of the drum. Replace the re-ring, round off the outside edge and that drum will sound great and you'll be able to put heads on it and tune it up. We just had a thread about how great 12" deep bass drums sound. It's just a suggestion for saving the drum.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks for the input Purdie! I did think of taking off the re-ring and cutting it back but it is actually a factory 12 inch deep drum now. Which means I would probably have to go to a ten inch deep. I was excited when I found this drum because I read that recent thread on 12 inch deep kicks! When I tackle the kick I think I am going to try a method I found on the DFO which involves taking out the bad re-ring using some sort of jack or turnbuckle to push up the part that is sagging then re-gluing the re-ring back down but with a part of the re-ring that is in round place on the part of the shell that was sagging.

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 11 years ago
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I actually think I am going to give this guy's method a shot to put the kick back in round.

[ame="http://youtu.be/FEt7yjnMT0w"]http://youtu.be/FEt7yjnMT0w[/ame]

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 11 years ago
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Sounds like a plan..

I'd be thinking that rotation of the ring followed by some of the clues from the video will probably provide the best result... seems the wettera the bettera with the diluted glue works..

Cheers

'77 Slingerland 51N,Super Rock 24,18,14,13.. COW 8,10 Concert toms
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
'98 Slingerland (Music YO) 6" 10 Lug Maple.. NOS
Zildjian, Sabian , UFIP & Paiste mix.
Posted on 11 years ago
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From longjohn

Sounds like a plan..Cheers

+1 That sounds like it will work!

I didn't know it was already a 12" or I wouldn't have suggested it. I was trying to think of a way to save the bass drum and still have a nice punchy drum when it was all said and done. I'll be following along to see how it all comes out. This is a great thread for drum-rehab addicts.

I'm rooting for you!

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks John and Purdie! I need all the support I can get!

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 11 years ago
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