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Robyn - There's -nothing you can't learn to play-!

The trick is to get it down so you can play it cleanly at a slow tempo. Here's what I do when I want to learn something new: (You need a plan of attack! Use this...)

1. Break it down into small sections. Start with the first 4 or 5 notes. Once you get it, move on to the next section, and so on and so on.

2. Play it slowly at first. If you go for speed immediately you'll end up getting frustrated and quitting. How can you play something fast if you don't know how to play it? So go slow at first. Once you get it down where you can execute it clean at a slow tempo, it's easy as pie to very gradually increase the speed.

3. Don't move on to the next music section until you've mastered the one you're working on. This one is just good horse-sense. If you move on to the next section before getting the one you're working on, down, every time you get to that section, you'll screw up and throw yourself off. Four/five notes at a time until you can nail it. Then... move on. (Learning anything new takes discipline!)

Speed will come! With repetition and practice you'll soon be playing the patterns 'up to speed.' Frustration comes from skipping steps. Trying to tackle too much, too soon. Slow and steady wins the race!

Stanton plays the LLRLRLRR slowly a couple of times. Start from there. Follow the steps... take it apart and start slow, and success is guaranteed. All a matter of how bad you want to learn how to play that stuff. But you -can- do it.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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I just recently came across Stanton Moore on Youtube. I have heard a lot about him in the past but just with in the last few months starting watching him. Oh my Lord!! I am starting to learn so much from just watching him. He is absolutely amazing!! One of my favorite "tricks" he does is when he uses his thumb and index finger and rubs it across the floor tom, similar to how you would do on the rim of a tamborine. Geez that guy is talented!!

-Justin

"People might look at you a bit funny, but it's okay. Artists are allowed to be a bit different."- Bob Ross

"After silence, that which comes closest to expressing the inexpressible is music..." - Aldous Huxley
Posted on 11 years ago
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Brew - It's a trick Latin drummers use! Works on bongo's, conga's and kit drums!

Latin thing! A good portion of the grooves that Stanton plays are based on either a 2/3 or a 3/2 clave' rhythm. Usually played on the bass drum. Once you get that Latin 3/2: dun, dun, dun, - dun, dun, happening on the bass drum, just start hitting a strong Bo Diddly beat on top and you're there... the groove builds itself. Stanton's got some video's out. Check out the titles and go from there. The real joy of drumming for me is playing this stuff. It's just where I've settled musically in my old age. Of all the styles I've checked out, I love to play second line stuff the most. It's just cool, heavy, creative, 'in the moment' drumming at it's best.

Challenging too!

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks for your advice john, i will use it the best i can. Thanks for your confidence in me too. Just if i could have some. Wish i could slow these vids down, way down, i might be able to follow bit by bit.

I wont give up tho.

Stay Wiggly,
Robyn
Posted on 11 years ago
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> Wish i could slow these vids down, way down, i might be able to follow bit by bit.

Robyn - This is a case where you don't need to slow the video down to learn it. You have the sticking pattern! Once you get the pattern under your hands, then you can concentrate on the accents. That's when the video demonstration comes in handy. But you can get half way there just by learning/practicing the sticking pattern: LLRLRLRR (Left, Left, Right, Left, Right, Left, Right, Right) Say it out loud as you do it if it helps.

Let me know when you've got the pattern to the point where you can play it slowly, evenly and repeatedly without stopping. I'll help you with the accents.

Practice it 3 to 5 minutes a day. You'll have it in no time. Remember, go slow at first!

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

> Wish i could slow these vids down, way down, i might be able to follow bit by bit. Robyn - This is a case where you don't need to slow the video down to learn it. You have the sticking pattern! Once you get the pattern under your hands, then you can concentrate on the accents. That's when the video demonstration comes in handy. But you can get half way there just by learning/practicing the sticking pattern: LLRLRLRR (Left, Left, Right, Left, Right, Left, Right, Right) Say it out loud as you do it if it helps.Let me know when you've got the pattern to the point where you can play it slowly, evenly and repeatedly without stopping. I'll help you with the accents.Practice it 3 to 5 minutes a day. You'll have it in no time. Remember, go slow at first!John

Im working on it john. Im not at home to do this on my drums but have been practicing it by patting my lap or table, driving my daughter crazy. I'll keep working on it and get back with you.

Thanks.

Stay Wiggly,
Robyn
Posted on 11 years ago
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Mikey - Rod...

You're Handbourines went out today! I really hope you spend a little time messing around with them. They are a ton of fun and they sound great when you're playing grooves on the toms!

Thanks for responding and for your donations to the upkeep of the clubhouse.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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thanks john. appreciate it man. will enjoy it for sure!

mike

Posted on 11 years ago
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Mike,

When it arrives, come back to this thread and watch the Stanton stuff again. It'll put you in the right head musically for enjoying the handbourine.

Work the toms!

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks for the update John...I'm sure I will enjoy it...Also, thanks again for helping out the VDF...

Cheers

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Posted on 11 years ago
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