As a teenager my son done the same things as you have just experienced. I quickly stopped letting him play my thin vintage stuff. I know the feeling though and it's frustrating as a parent, at 22 they should know better but I guess they don't.

I gave Jake, beater stuff(which he beat to death) and he couldn't have been happier. Thick Zildjian cymbals and MIT drums are made for those with heavy hands. I also would include him to help with the repairs so he might learn something.

Hope you can resolve this issue!

Gary

I still find it interesting how someone can actually crack a cymbal.

I'd think only a hammer could do such a thing...

I have two sons that both play and never had a problem with them beating and instrument to death. I would even trust them with my Camcos.

Maybe the problem isn't with the drums and his playing at all. Maybe it has more to do with being 22 and still at home. Like not having wings to fly away with...Oops...

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Thats what your snare and cymbal went through while you were on holiday!!! Feeling for you mate.

Larryz anything above Forte is liable to crack a cymbal depending on its age, thickness, temperature etc etc. A bad technique doesn't help either. Maybe you play quite lightly but put in a 100+ show Rock tour on a set of K's and something will give at some point. It's the nature of the style and the fact I like using thinner cymbals for the sound. I wouldn't put my Constantinoples up, they are reserved for those light gigs and recording and hopefully will be handed down when I go.

That sucks man. Sorry to hear that. My kids are still really little, but both love my drums. I purchase a used set of sabian b8 and let them use that.

+1 That is a great idea!

I think ,there's lessons for both of you here,and your son need to pony up for the cymbal and a new head,at the least.Trust is a terrible thing to lose,but,thats what his hand calls for.If you lie,then there's a price you have to pay for bad judgement,and at his age,he needs to learn that lesson as well.I know all about children lying to your face,but they need to know there's consequences for that decision.

There's also a lesson here for you too.I've learned over the years,than you never lend,or let anybody use anything,that you can't stand to lose.Of course if you lend something to someone,you expect to get it back.If you leat somone use your property,you expect that the'll treat it as you do.But that's always the case.That includes drums,money a lawnmower, the wife.....well maybe not the wife,kidding.

Life can be a harsh teacher sometimes,but at least ,hopefully,all have learned something by this.

Steve B

Of course the assumption here is that he did not invite some friends over while you were gone so when he said he didn't crack the cymbal, he could be telling the truth.

Think of how many times you caused your own mom and dad grief when you were young, loaded with hormones, 'ready to rock' and breaking all the rules having a great time. You probably broke your parents' hearts more than once, and yet they got over it. "Love Hurts" as the song lyrics go. You can buy more cymbals but can't buy another son. Just my opinion on the matter.

p.s. - and if people didn't break cymbals there'd be no need for cymbal factories. Frame the broken treasure and mount it in your trophy room as an heirloom reminder of your luck in having a great dad and great son.

Well, that sucks. You got a lot of issues going on there, the biggest one being that your boy isn't being fully truthful.

On the cracked cymbal - it's one thing for a dude to crack his own cymbal, and it's bad enough. But for someone else to crack your cymbal, that's a whole different story.

My advice, give it a few days to blow over, then calmly have a heart to heart with him about it and see if you can get him to own up to it - without you going ape **** on him.

Chances are, you'd have cracked it yourself at some point down the road.

Peace!