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JD McPherson - check out his drummer Last viewed: 6 hours ago

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From Purdie Shuffle

Until the British invasion in the mid-sixties, this is what -every- American band sounded like. We used to play a lot of sock-hops/dances and Rock-a-Billy, along with whatever tunes were being played on the radio, was the order of the day.I'm happy to see some of the younger guys rediscovering not only this great American music, but how great old-school recording really is. Digital sucks moose kock! Mic four or five good musicians all playing in the same room and it's sonic MAGIC time. Phil Spector made a career out of it, it's called: The Wall Of Sound. The older phartz will know what I'm talking about.Great band, I enjoyed the tune very much. Reminded me of my youth and how much fun it is to play that stuff.John

Glad you enjoyed it sir! Ive been watching everything I can on these guys the past couple of days. I really like them!

Gone are the days of the "live sound" in recordings... that's sad. Death by technology!

-Justin

"People might look at you a bit funny, but it's okay. Artists are allowed to be a bit different."- Bob Ross

"After silence, that which comes closest to expressing the inexpressible is music..." - Aldous Huxley
Posted on 12 years ago
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Brew, thanks for sharing. I too really like that sound. And like John, I have always thought something was not right with digital music. I saw an interview with Neil Young (one of my favs) and he has invented a new type of player that makes the Ipod sound like garbage. Dont know the details , I kept dosing off,lol.

A customer is giving me his stereo that He bought in Veitnam while serving. Part of it is an Akia reel to reel tape recorder. Not sure what to do with it but it, and the rest of the equipment are really cool vintage gear. And its free, he just wants to get rid of it.

Jeff C


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 12 years ago
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From jccabinets

Brew, thanks for sharing. I too really like that sound. And like John, I have always thought something was not right with digital music. I saw an interview with Neil Young (one of my favs) and he has invented a new type of player that makes the Ipod sound like garbage. Dont know the details , I kept dosing off,lol.A customer is giving me his stereo that He bought in Veitnam while serving. Part of it is an Akia reel to reel tape recorder. Not sure what to do with it but it, and the rest of the equipment are really cool vintage gear. And its free, he just wants to get rid of it.Jeff C

Jeff - Welcome to the wonderful world of vinyl! Whip out all your old albums and have at them.

In the late-nineties I recorded some stuff for a local New York cable program. When I listened to the playback, it didn't sound like me at all. The engineer had 'digitized' my takes and linked them to some kind of synch/click track that evens out your playing to the computer generated tempo. It made me sound like a damn electronic drum machine. He took all the overtones and sounds that I work hard to get and he literally sterilized my sound and my playing. I got into a huge argument with the guy who was producing the sessions (who was all of 22 years-old) and I tried to explain to him that he was taking the life (live-feel/real drummer) out of the music. Why the hell hire a real drummer and then make him sound like a computerized drum machine? I lost the argument of course and the music went out sounding like there were no live musicians playing on any of the recordings. It sounded sterile, mechanical and had no 'soul.' Like it was all created on a midi.

There is nothing like analog (tape) for recreating a 'live band sound' on a recording. The 'warts,' the little inconsistencies, that the electronic whiz-kids were so diligently scrubbing out of the music is precisely the stuff that makes it sound good... like you're listening to a live band. I have a huge beef with all the reliance on digital this and digital that. It did not make the music better. The life has been taken out of everything. As far as I'm concerned, if you're going to digitize everything anyway, why bother hiring real musicians.

Now that's one of my peeves. Mind Blowi I hope vinyl makes a come-back. I miss hearing the sound of a real band making real music.

Rant over...

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 12 years ago
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I have transfered vynal albums to the computer so I can get it on my mp3 player I use in my wood shop, its about the only device that will stand up to the fine dust. Anyway, I swear that those tunes from the old lp's sound better than the ones ripped from a new CD.

Jeff C


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 12 years ago
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In the right hands, digital recording will sound no different than analog. There is much focus on digital gear that recreates the sounds of the older methods. It sounds like you just had an idiot for a producer. Like it or not, digital is not going away. It's all in how you use it. That said, if I could afford it, I would go mostly analog myself.

When stereo came along, mono purists were up in arms.

Stephen

Vintage Drum Student
Posted on 12 years ago
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From relayer

In the right hands, digital recording will sound no different than analog. There is much focus on digital gear that recreates the sounds of the older methods. It sounds like you just had an idiot for a producer. Like it or not, digital is not going away. It's all in how you use it. That said, if I could afford it, I would go mostly analog myself.When stereo came along, mono purists were up in arms.Stephen

Stephen - Yes! Huge idiot! Wouldn't accept input from anybody other than the engineer who was hell-bent on cleaning up every note with his (then)new digital toys/filters. Every guy that worked those sessions (there were six of us,) complained about how drastically all their parts were altered. It wasn't just me. That little prique took one or two bars of the groove I was playing, and dropped it in/as a patch, anywhere he damn well chose. The repetition of the copies of the same few bars in what was a two-and-a-half minute piece is what made it sound fake/mechanical, like a machine. Not like a live drummer. I'm sure a lot of that 'scrub it clean' mentality was tied to the newness of the technology... playing with new toys. It was like; if the software came with a certain set of filters, they felt obligated to use them. Whether it made any aesthetic sense/contribution, or not. I'm sure they've outgrown a lot of that by now. I haven't been inside a recording studio in 15 years, glad to hear they are 'coming around' to a more musical approach to recording as opposed to a purely technical one. I miss that wall of sound. Bunch of guys interacting live, sounds bouncing off the walls, the band cooking.... nothing like it.

Here's a sample of it from the Master record producer himself, Phil Spector. Phil would pack a bunch of musicians into a studio and mic the room. Listen to how BIG and full the sound is. How 'alive' and immediate it sounds. I wish the sound quality on this clip was better, but it'll do to illustrate my point about a 'live' sound.

Crank it!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqgtsai2aKY[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhbGaCwBzs[/ame]

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 12 years ago
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Posted on 12 years ago
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From BUCKIE_B

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From BUCKIE_B

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Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 12 years ago
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From BUCKIE_B

WE MUST RETURN TO CALFSKIN! THINK HOW MUCH WE DRUMMERS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO OUR PLANET'S PROBLEMS BY TURNING TO DRUMHEADS AND DRUM COVERINGS MADE OF PLASTIC AND ALUMINIUM RATHER THAN SKIN AND WOOD! BURN ACRYLIC DRUMS AND THEY PRODUCE CYANIDE GAS! REPENT! REPENT! WE MUST RESTORE BALANCE BACK TO LIFE ON THE PLANET! REAL CRAFTSMEN AND ARTISTS MUST BE PUT BACK TO WORK!electricit electricit electricit electricit electricit electricit

Agreed with above comments, And you don't need to yell.

Jeff C,,lol


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 12 years ago
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