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Late 60's Dynasonic Help Last viewed: 2 minutes ago

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Hi Folks,

I'm brand new here and new to the Vintage Drum game. I decided to piece together a Dynasonic and jump in with both feet. I have no idea what I'm doing.

I just purchase what was advertised as a "late 60's Dynasonic" shell. Now I need to purchase the rest of the parts. My first question for starters is, can I purchase any hoops, throw off, butts, etc. that is listed as 60's Dynasonic or were these parts changed throughout the 60's and I need to be more specific than that?

Any help is really appreciated.

John

Posted on 14 years ago
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welcome wait a little the rogers expert will be here but if its parts you need you'll find them here too, great snare i restored one a while back its complicated but take your time and you'll have a great drum with awesome sound .....

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks a lot. I thought I saw something about a resident Rogers expert. I appreciate the encouragement.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Depends if you you want a player, or a period correct drum. Parts are interchangeable for a player. Serial number would be needed for a period correct drum.

60's drum "generally" had

1. Bottom rim with screwed on gates for early 60's. Later Fullerton had 1 piece construction.

2. Lugs had spring loaded inserts. Later in Big R era, the springs were replaced by clips to hold the insert in place.

3. Correct snare wire had 19 strands. Other will fit with no problem, especially from Puresound for player.

4. Throwoff had letter D stamped on it. It also had a "notch" when engaged to hold the snare rail in place. A Powertone throw will work also. Later 70's models did away with the D stamp.

5. Snare rail changed over time. Serial number required for "correct" piece.

Getting all the "correct" parts will cost more than buying a already completed drum. Recommend you go with parts that fit and make a players drum. I have seen some conversions with tube lugs that looked pretty cool. Thought about doing that myself with some black chrome rims and lugs against the chrome shell.

The shell has no snare bed, but many people have taken off the snare rail and put on regular snare wires. Drums still sounds great.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From amosguy

Depends if you you want a player, or a period correct drum. Parts are interchangeable for a player. Serial number would be needed for a period correct drum. 60's drum "generally" had1. Bottom rim with screwed on gates for early 60's. Later Fullerton had 1 piece construction.2. Lugs had spring loaded inserts. Later in Big R era, the springs were replaced by clips to hold the insert in place.3. Correct snare wire had 19 strands. Other will fit with no problem, especially from Puresound for player.4. Throwoff had letter D stamped on it. It also had a "notch" when engaged to hold the snare rail in place. A Powertone throw will work also. Later 70's models did away with the D stamp.5. Snare rail changed over time. Serial number required for "correct" piece.Getting all the "correct" parts will cost more than buying a already completed drum. Recommend you go with parts that fit and make a players drum. I have seen some conversions with tube lugs that looked pretty cool. Thought about doing that myself with some black chrome rims and lugs against the chrome shell.The shell has no snare bed, but many people have taken off the snare rail and put on regular snare wires. Drums still sounds great.

What HE said.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 14 years ago
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I love my Dynasonic, late 60's. I'm pretty new here as well and am finding the members to be both very knowledgeable and very helpful. A search of the information housed in the "Drum Identification" section of the site (above) will help a lot in what you are doing.

I certainly do agree with the experts above, having "played around" with various Dyna's in the past. It can be very expensive to "build" a Dynasonic from only a shell, but it also can be fun.

You may be able to pick up a parts snare that has a dented shell or is incomplete, but they don't appear often.

Good luck and have fun!Clapping Happy2

Candy Apple Red 1982 DB Tama Superstar 14 pc.
'59 Slingerland Radio King Red Glass Snare 14 x 5
'69 Rogers Chrome 5-Line Dyna Snare 14 x 5 (Sold)
'67 Slingerland Sound King 14 x 5 Snare (Sold)
'73 Slingerland Super Sound King 14 x 5 Snare (Sold)
'68 Slingerland 10-Lug Aluminum 14x5 Snare (Sold)
'68 Rogers Dayton COB Powertone Snare 14 x 5 (Sold)
Tama Superstar Candy Apple Red Snare 14x6 1/2 (Sold)
Tama Superstar Candy Apple Red Snare 14x6 1/2 w/o Muffler

All Zildjian, all the time!
Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks for the great info,

Right now all I have is a crummy picture of the shell. Looks like the serial number is 2146 but I'm not positive.

I guess I'm thinking about getting it playing fairly quickly so a player drum for now with the hopes of replacing with period correct parts over time. In the short run, I'd like to have a Dynasonic that sounds like a Dynasonic.

Posted on 14 years ago
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As my wife says to me all the time, don't fix something that you know you're going to have to redo again in near future...waste of money!

So, my humble opinion, is decide what you want the drum to be and try (best you can) to locate the correct parts. If a part or two is incorrect, that is okay and can be replaced, but if you quickly put it together with mostly/all incorrect parts, you're going to end up spending lots of money...way more then you could get a decent complete Dyna for.

I've noticed a number of fairly nice Dynas on Ebay, missing only the snare rail/bridge, going for inexpensive prices. Keep these in mind as you go along investing in parts. This is my current Dyna, mint, original, complete 21,xxx serial number. I've had others, like a 7-line, later 5-line and "Big R"...here are pics. I sold these and kept the nicest! :D

If you need closeup shots of anything, please let me know.

Candy Apple Red 1982 DB Tama Superstar 14 pc.
'59 Slingerland Radio King Red Glass Snare 14 x 5
'69 Rogers Chrome 5-Line Dyna Snare 14 x 5 (Sold)
'67 Slingerland Sound King 14 x 5 Snare (Sold)
'73 Slingerland Super Sound King 14 x 5 Snare (Sold)
'68 Slingerland 10-Lug Aluminum 14x5 Snare (Sold)
'68 Rogers Dayton COB Powertone Snare 14 x 5 (Sold)
Tama Superstar Candy Apple Red Snare 14x6 1/2 (Sold)
Tama Superstar Candy Apple Red Snare 14x6 1/2 w/o Muffler

All Zildjian, all the time!
Posted on 14 years ago
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Yes, that's good advice. Please thank Mrs. Vipuronr for me.

A quick look at a serial number chart indicates that this would be a 1969. Sound right?

I know I could probably purchase a fully operational Dynasonic for less but this seems like it'll be a fun undertaking to hunt around for the parts.

Posted on 14 years ago
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iamjohn!...

Might you possibly be missing a digit on your serial number? Reason I mention that is: With a serial of #2146, that would place your Dynasonic at 1963!... and it would have B&B lugs, not the Beavertails as those came in around serial number #2700 or so. A picture or two would certainly confirm what's what with your drum, as well as a close up of the serial number/badge.

Tommyp

Posted on 14 years ago
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