Your parents could not possibly have bought that drum in the late 70's. That's a 1990's Monroe badge snare drum. I don't know what model it is. It has Bowtie lugs like an Acrolite, but the chrome shell looks like a Supraphonic style. The throwoff is a 70's style -except your throwoff arm is bent.

It's like a Supra...but not.

I have personally owned it since 1978 - I haven't probably played it since 1990, but owned it for 30 years. It's very possible the arm is bent, it's the same as it has been for as long as I can remember. Thank you for the reply, but you are incorrect on the date, sorry.

In saying that, I looked at the badges on this site again and it does look like the 60-63 is "raised" on the sticks and letters, but this one is totally flat. I found the badge you referred to on the Internet and I have to admit it does look similar, but this does not have a serial number. I just wish I knew if they bought it new or used as that would help narrow it down- I always assumed used so I'll go with that.

Shawn

Hi,

Saw this site:

http://www.vintagedrumyard.co.uk/vdetail.asp?product=Vintage%20Drums&style=Snare%20Drum&manuf=Ludwig&ref=L400x5

This shows a Ludwig 400 and it says 60s era, but the same badge and even has the 70s looking throwoff and large round tone control knob, but different lugs. Does this help at all? Thanks again.

If I was a betting man, I would have to say you are looking at a 1983-84 Ludwig Supra snare. Ludwig-Dude will chime in and nail it for us all.

Thats a Large Keystone badge from 1984, Chicago, NOT a 1960-1963 badge. The "ludalloy" stickers didn't get fitted to the drum shells until the early 70's and they lasted until the end of the Chicago factory. Its a supraphonic from 1984 fitted with the classic series lugs. I've seen a few of these over the years from that era, so its not uncommon for these lugs to show up on a supra from time to time. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY that this drum was made before that, UNLESS the badge was swapped out.

Thanks everyone for the help, this is quite confusing. I freely admit that I don't know what it is, but I do know there is no way it is from 84 because I already owned it for 5-6 years. If I recently bought it and the person told me they bought it in the late 70s I would have to admit they were wrong, but because I'm 38 and have had it since I was 7 (not to mention my parents separated in 80 and I already had this snare) this is really mind boggling.

With the purchase being from a music store there's no telling what they may have done to it as far as lugs etc go, but I have never taken the drum in to any music store since I've owned it so no way was the sticker or anything else done to it since the late 70s. As far as the badge being swapped as you say, did they have these in the late 70s that the music store could have possibly put it on?

I really appreciate your help and thanks for the patients. The only thing I am absolutely certain of is that I have personally owned it since 78. I remember the day I got it I set up my drum, my brother got out his trombone and my dad got out his sax (and remember my parents were separated in 80 and this was in our old house) and we all made this rediculous sounding music. I got my drum set in 81 possibly early 82 and I assure you I didn't get my drum set before I got a snare so I know my dates are correct.

Thanks again everyone!

Shawn

Don't know what to tell you other than someone has been messing around with a time-travel machine. Eye Ball

The badge on the drum doesn't appear to have been messed with. And if it's original, then the drum is from the mid-80's (I made a mistake to say it was from the 90's). The throwoff is from the 70's.

Normally, a Supraphonic has "Imperial" lugs, but yours has "Classic" lugs aka "Bowties" when they are conjoined.

If you have owned that drum since 1978 and it always had that badge, then time travel is a reality because it is absolutely physically impossible any other way! Those badges weren't even made in the 70's! In the 70's the badges were parallelogram shaped blue and olive badges. And they ran all the way through the 70's and up until about 1984 when they switched to the style of badge on your drum. Those are facts, There is no ambiguity in this regard.

Captain, I believe a wrinkle in the time-warp continuum has occurred.......................

Cool, these must be worth a fortune because they have been through a time machine!