Isn't it ??..... kinda weird, but that's how the website is configured.

No biggie.......

Well......I guess that all of us ***ish, *****tian, and ***lem people ought to be censored from posting our religious preferences on this forum. The same ought to be true for the ****crats , *******cans, ******rians, and *******gers voicing political thoughts. Lame

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Or, we could just post drum-related information and not worry about the minutiae! ;)

F**kin' brilliant Howie. ;)

Excellent ... and thanks for spelling it correctly.

If corporations like GuitarCenter and the like accomplish what they are setting out to do then MOST of the public would be musicaians of sorts and would care about drum sounds.

as for how advanced drums are and to weather or not we overthink them, this is a vintage drum forum ofcourse we overthink things, we care about things like what year ludwig stopped painting shell interiors white, or when slingerland switched plants, when cob was out and cos was in, jasper vs. kellar ect.ect.

Like it or not a drum set is the most advanced way to do about the most stone-aged thing...beating on logs with sticks. and it still blows my mind.

Well said!!

There have been some very thoughtful responses to my original post. I was trying to find out if I am a lone ranger who collects classic drums of the past, but does not lose any sleep if a drum or drum set does not have every single nut, bolt, and tension rod that is original to the drum. I am content when the drums have most of their original essence intact. I will usually be very mindful of the tom mounts, bass drum spurs, tom legs, and cymbal holders as well as the snare drum throw-off. But, if some of the rims or t-rods or internal lug mounting screws and washers are not original, I usually don't obsess about it. My more casual approach to collecting has allowed me to "bottom feed" for some great drum sets from the '50s and '60s that I acquired for very little money. With a modicum of fix-up and rehab bucks, some of these sets are now worth as much as ten times the money I have invested in them. I would be very surprised if my approach to collecting is not more common than what posters to this thread indicate.

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The sad truth is unless you have a large resource to money, having a completely mint set of 58 Slingerland's is hard to come by. Most of the vintage drums in the 40 and up age bracket have had some mods done because the original owner probably saw a newer Rogers or Slingy kit with a newer tom holder and said, "What am I doing with this spade thing when I can drill here and mount a Swivo?" We are one of the more industrious of the instrumentalists because our instrument has always been sort of retro and modern at the same time. I would love to have one of the kits that is a true museum piece but I like my imperfect kits because it is fun setting them up and playing them. Setting up the drums at a gig is part of the job but setting up drums in a clean drum room is always like Christmas. Wanting nothing more than to get it set up perfect and then that first rimshot. I still love it. The whole process is what makes us drummers different.