If you mean the set-o-matic tom mount, a round tube won't work.... the tubes are D-shaped?

Thanks Kev well that settles that. I didn't know that about the setomatic hardware. The stuff that came off the drum on hand had a clip mount, I was considering upgrading to a setomatic...I do love the styling, but it would be easier for me to go with a Yamaha YES system tom mount and swivel arm... it's not Slingerland, but works very smoothly and will be fine for what I have in mind. Huh......."D" shaped eh? I guess that's goes down as, "what I learned on VDF today" THANK YOU.

Glen

I think YESS mounts to the lugs. I'd get a RIMS knock-off unless you can retrofit without drilling. If you can retrofit without drilling, the Yamaha is probably superior in every way to the RIMS knock-off.

Agreed! the Yamaha stuff just plain works well. I may have misspoke when I called what I have on hand a YES system. It's really just first generation hex rod stuff that penetrates into the drum. I believe the Yes system hardware is essentially a rims mount system that connects to the same style tom mount, but the hex shaft does not penetrate the shell. At any rate, vastly superior to an old Slingerland clip mount from 1964, except, of course, for wow factor of being historically accurate and awesomely authentic.

Here's a pic of the tube from the bottom showing the D shape. This is the older 1st gen SOM mount.

I see, I see.....thanks for taking that picture.....so does the collet tighten down a screw onto the flat section of the D shaped pipe , or squeeze a ring around the perimeter of the pipe? Do they still function well after forty two years or so? I like the styling on the raised mound bass drum mount for all this stuff too. From an era when designs for things came out of human minds, rather than morphed on some computer CAD program. Looked so futuristic back then, much classier. Kinda like old car interiors with clocks on the steering wheel or gear shift knobs on the dashboard, big old rocket fins, and bumpers, opera windows, and on and on.............all emerging from human imagination, and each innovation looking distinctly dynamic and original, instead of all looking the same. I personally think that all the new drum stuff offerings are looking (and sounding) more and more alike at the drum shop.....which reminds me of a joke..........." it's not that I'm old son, your music really does suck!"

Here's some more pics for you.

It shows the bass and tom mounts and how they fit together with some shots of the posts and receivers.

On the tom mount there is a clip that applies pressure on the post via a tension rod-looking screw.

There's no clip on the bass mount.

I shot a pic of the wing screw that tightens up the d-shaped down tube.... There should be a memory-lock clip on the down tube....

I pictured it separately.

You can see too, that the posts for the toms don't extend past the bottom of the mount, so there is no need for a hole to be in the shell for the post to pass through, as there would be for a single set-o-matic tom mount, but that's another story.

The set-o-matics have been criticized for their limited positioning possibilities.

I think that's true as well, but a lot of it for me is what one is able to get used to ergonomically speaking.

I've got eleven set-o-matic set-ups for various outfits.... they are all 35 to 44 years old, so I guess they are a pretty well-functioning piece of hardware if cared for properly.

You'll notice the down tube can get pretty chewed up from the wing screw if the height is changed a lot.

Best to find the sweet spot, set the memory clip there, and leave it.

The good news is that the damaged side of the tube faces the drummer, so it's visually audience-friendly.

I'll have to post the last three pics in the following post.

Here's the other three pics.

Please excuse the rust on the memory clip, it's a spare one out of my parts bin.

Kevin great pics and post thanks! Do you know if the later set o matic D tubes fit into the earlier version bass mount? Reason I ask is the tube on mine is less than 7" tall and I don't know if I'll get the height I want. My kit is still in pieces here. I don't know why they used such a stubby tube on the early version either. I agree on the adjustment too. When I went from my old Rogers kit to the new Slingy kit I wasn't very happy with the limited adjustment from the ball. But I did adapt to it in time.