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Anyone here have experience with the newer Gibraltar or DW flush-based stands? I love the look of vintage stands, but I need the reliability of modern hardware for regular setups/teardowns. I've destroyed a couple of nice vintage stands in the past (stripped threads, bent legs from being stepped on, etc.), so I'd like to get a set of new hardware and leave the vintage stuff at home.

My biggest priority is look and weight. I like the look of the DW and Gibraltar flat based stuff, but none of the shops near me carry it, and I don't want to order any until I'm sure what I want. If one is lighter in weight than the other, that might be the only factor - I want my hardware bag to be as LIGHT as possible. I'm not a hard hitter and I use thin cymbals, so I'm not too worried about tipping anything.

Anyone out there have experience with these stands?

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Been using DW flat stands exclusively for the last couple of years. No babying, tossed into the bag. No problems, been stable, no slipping etc. I've heard similar about the Gibralter's and Ludwigs. Just got a deal on a couple of DW's...

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From DrumOgre

Anyone out there have experience with these stands?

Yes, and I like the new Ludwig flat-based stands the best.

1970 Ludwig Downbeat
1965 Ludwig Hollywood
1970 Ludwig Jazzette
Posted on 12 years ago
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From caddywumpus

Yes, and I like the new Ludwig flat-based stands the best.

From what I've seen, the Ludwig are the most expensive of the 3 - what sets them apart from the others?

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"I've met cats and dogs smarter than Cory and Trevor."
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From DrumOgre

From what I've seen, the Ludwig are the most expensive of the 3 - what sets them apart from the others?

Oh geez...there's a "new" new one available now. I don't mean the Atlas stands. Never tried those. I was referring to the ones that are now, apparently, discontinued. They were about $10 cheaper than what you could find the DW and Gibraltar ones for, and collapsed more compactly. Sorry for the confusion...

1970 Ludwig Downbeat
1965 Ludwig Hollywood
1970 Ludwig Jazzette
Posted on 12 years ago
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+1 on the dw, been using them for a few years now and no problems, and I was playing three nights a week. Memory locks a huge plus!

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I have enough real vintage cymbal and hihat stands from the 50's and 60's to outfit at least three large drum sets with four cymbals on each drum set. That hardware is all from either Slingerland, Rogers, Camco, or Walberg & Auge. The latter two were sold under various brand names in the 50's. I gigged them mercilessly from the time they were new. When a screw or clamp would strip out, a new screw or clamp would replace the ruined one. If a riser tube would have a screw receiver strip out, or a screw break off in it, that tube would be swapped out with a tube from another stand. Sometimes, the broken screw could be backed out to salvage the riser tube. My own bulk and girth and the greater bulk and girth of a roadie never ruined a base of one of these stands. They were usually carelessly tossed in to an old Samsonite hard shelled suitcase used as a trap case. I have acquired several more vintage stands at bargain prices from "junk" bins at music stores or online for very little money for these old relics. For the hell of it, I bought two of the Gibralter vintage throwback stands when they were offered as a "stupid deal" online. They are as good as the 50 and 60 year old stands that I have.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 12 years ago
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I have several of the discontinued Ludwig LT 126 CS cymbal stands as well as a

couple of the Gibraltar flat based stands.

I prefer the Ludwigs for their light weight but the Gibraltar stands are a

more sturdy, have a slightly bigger foot print but weigh a little more.

Either of these will do a good job for you; however, the Ludwigs are getting

hard to come by.

It's my understanding that the DWs and the new Ludwig Atlas stands

are considerably heavier, if that matters to you.

Hope this helps.

MW

Ludwig Maple 3 ply 22 13 16 '72 SBP
Ludwig Maple 3 ply 20 12 14 '73 BDP
Ludwig CM 20 12 14 2011 Natural Maple
Gretsch Renown Bop 18 12 14 2012 Piano Blk

Ludwig Hammered Bronze 5 x 14 '82 Chicago
Ludwig Supraphonic 5 x 14 '72 w/Die Cast
Ludwig Jazz Fest 5 x 14 B/O OBP '72
Ludwig Pioneer 5 x 14 KS Black Lacquer '67
Ludwig Acrolite 5 x 14 B/O '70
Ludwig 6.5 x 14 Birch Natural - Monroe '90s
Slingerland Bronze 6.5 x 14 '70s
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I have a complete set of the DW 6000's and they work great! As mentioned above...the memory locks make setup a breeze. The new Ludwig Atlas Classics came out a year after I bought my hardware, but I probably would have picked those up if I had the choice when I purchased my DW's...mostly because I play Ludwigs.

- EMD
Posted on 12 years ago
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I have 2 of the Gibralter stands. They are light weight but can take whatever slamming or crashing you want to give them without tipping. Easy to fit in close spaces. The feet are raised up a little so you can fit them in around cords and cable that have been already run around the drum set. I'm very satisfied with them.

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