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From FFR428

Lugs look almost like Rogers B&B lugs. Not sure if they made them with the bead cutout. But they have the look. Gary or one of the early Rogers guys might know. Cool looking snare. Hope you get to the bottom of things.

I think it could be a metal one of these, which I`m not sure of the model....Cant make out the throw....What says Ploughman ???

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Posted on 10 years ago
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You should go by the throw off on this one to identify who used it on their brand of drums. The B+B-like lugs are a copy of the Rogers used on non US drums and I've seen them on cheaper import snare drums as well. R. King a while back sent me a few of the lugs with the same middle knotch on your drum with the same question-Rogers? Nope.

This lug design wasn't patented so there was nobody to go after and nothing to be said. The Rogers beavertail lug was patented and we don't see copies of those. Mr. Grossman or CBS would of attacked if they saw that copied. Joe too...lol!

Further on the topic of the metal shell...Rogers in the 1940s NJ Farmingdale had a flat shell R faced lug 6 lug snare they named the Utility model. Then in around 1954 in OH there were a few uncataloged metal shell snare drums with the internal paper tag that reads Special Model. There are only 4 known of those that have surfaced so far. These have a flat shell as well. Then we had to wait a few years until the first early, also flat metal shell exterior, Rogers snare drums named the Holiday Model and Dynasonic Model. Even after all those flat metal shell snares there was a bead around the drum but it was an inny not an outy ridge/groove.

Posted on 10 years ago
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pretty sure its a Tromsa, but wonder if it might be from a slightly earlier era

on this page, near the bottom is a tom with identical rims... pretty sure Rogers never had cutaways for beads on their lugs

http://home.arcor.de/pfaue/tromsa/tromsagal/ez_tt/tt.htm

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Correct no cut aways for external beads on Rogers shells. If it helps to date the drum and we are saying that the Rogers came first then to be copied it would place the post 1957. The lugs were flat faced until the 1958 center ridge lugs and intro to Swivo for Rogers.

Posted on 10 years ago
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I think it´s a Tromsa/Deri Co Production from the early 50s! User Calfskin probably would know more facts!

I have one of those from a later period-the Sound fantastic!Yes Sir

regards

Christian

Posted on 10 years ago
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I suppose that Chris is more close to the truth about Tromsa.

This strainer type was used by Tromsa (and brands) and also on metal Tacton snares in 1970 -1988's (not so time ago I sold two shells this type -- the price was a barter as bottle of brandy)... :)

It's not a secret that Tromsa was a biggest supplier of different drum parts for numerous german manufacturers.

Posted on 10 years ago
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I guess the biggest mystery is how/why the somewhat primitive shell managed to get paired with the lugs, which are quite substantial

The bearing edges are lumpy enough to have been intended for calf heads, as is the over-sized shell

Posted on 10 years ago
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