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Hello, new here to the vintage world of drumming. I'm looking at buying a 1968 Rogers Kit. 13x6, 16x16, 22x14 sizes. I understand it to be 3 ply mahogany shells. USA. I think it has the beaver tail lugs. Still got to see in person. The kit has been wrapped with a temp wrap that easly is removed when all the hardware is removed. He did that to protect its finish. He's asking $450 for the kit and I really don't know if it's a good price or not. Can somebody shed some light on the situation and either bless it or tell me to run for the woods? Here is the link if you can check the kit out and let me know what you think. I sure appreciate it. I've attached pictures before and after wrap.

Thank you so much for your time.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/msg/3301573953.html

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Posted on 12 years ago
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I'm far from an 'expert' but that seems about right as long as there are no serious condition issues. Bet you can get it for $380-400.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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It is not 1968 there was not tom holder like that till 72 or 73 it looks like Fullerton drums which are very good drums but not Dayton or Cleveland quality so i am betting if he upgraded the tom holders to memricoc then there are also extra holes but hard to tell from the pics...

Posted on 12 years ago
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If the white is the original finish, it was not available in '68, as best I know. It showed up in the catalogs in the 70's. If the tension casings (lugs) have circlips to retain the tension rod receiver, then the drums are late Fullerton CA. If springs, earlier Fullerton, CA. In the first case, they should have a Holiday label inside. In the second, probably a Rogers 1972 label.

It was originally a Celebrity layout based on having a tom mount on the far left, a knobby mount in front of that and a knobby mount on the right side.

The memri-loc hardware is a later moditification adding a few extra holes on each drum. Unfortunately, the original mounts are not there on the recovered drums, so you might want to ask if he still has them.

If you're going to use these to play music, the price is fine and the drums are probably good to play if the bearing edges have not been damaged. If you're trying to find collectable Rogers drums for future value, you might want to keep looking.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From cvstovall

I understand it to be 3 ply mahogany shells. USA. I think it has the beaver tail lugs.http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/msg/3301573953.html

Hi. The drums are 5 ply maple. Among the best shells made in the US ever. Yes, they are Beavertail lugs. Mixture of Memrilock and Swivo hardware. Looks like the Memrilock was an add on. Not elegant, but a solider mount then Swivo. You'll want to add a RIMs to alleviate the deadening effect. Or, change it back to Swivomatic. Lot's of extra Swivo mounts, too. Look beneath them. Ok price, not a great price. Use the info and offer $350.00. I'd go that, but not much more.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Holy Moley! Thanks to everyone for your reply. I had to laugh at just how serious the vintage community takes their drums. I think I asked the right people to have a looks see. For the record, my laugh was a good laugh. I'm thankful I asked and very much appreciate each reply.

I think I'll pass on the vintage kits for now. I have a Noble & Cooley kit and a Ludwig Legacy fab 4 kit I'll suffer through for now. Thanks again.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Dont give up on vintage, there are plenty of good kits to go around.

A serious resotration project isnt probably what you want to take on as a first vintage kit. Find one without issues, and pay the extra money it costs.

In the long run....... you will get off cheaper paying 1200 for a vintage shell pack without issues, than you will paying 400 for one with a LOT of issues.

On the plus side, the 1200 dollar vintage kit will still be a 1200 dollar vintage kit two years from now. The 400 dollar kit you have 800 more invested into, will still only be slightly more than a 400 dollar kit.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 12 years ago
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How about a pic of the N&C kit? Luv their stuff. Got one of the Zild/N&C snares that's like my fav ever drum. And it blends really well with my Rogers!

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From The Ploughman

On the plus side, the 1200 dollar vintage kit will still be a 1200 dollar vintage kit two years from now. The 400 dollar kit you have 800 more invested into, will still only be slightly more than a 400 dollar kit.

Or, for a gigging kit, just buy the $400 buck one and use it. It'll sound just as good, they'll look fine and they'll be no worries. That's my favorite approach. I've got 3 kits, a 3 ply Luddy, Dayton Rogers, and stop sign Gretsch. All look great and sound really good. Hard to call between them. I've tried!! And they all get gigged regularly.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Kit looks like it's from the early 70's, 5-ply maple. Not mahogany. The Memriloc hardware was added later, and that mod really kills the value of the drums.

For a player's kit, it would be fine for $3-400. But, for $750 or so you can get something nice. keep looking...

Posted on 12 years ago
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