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the big 14 drum query,,, Last viewed: 2 hours ago

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From kookadams

Ringo was an ok drummer, nothing special... the beatles wouldve NEVER got off the ground if it werent for george martin, he MADE them!

OK... I'm really tired of hearing this!!! Was Ringo a "technical" drummer? NO! Did he possess an almost metronome timing and inventiveness for every song? You betcha! I doubt any other drummer available at this time period could have propelled the Beatles to stardom. Let's face it, just watching Ringo play was fun! Oh yeah, an he sure helped Ludwig sell thousands of kits, not to mention that more than a few of us on this forum wanted to play drums after seeing the Beatles on Ed Sullivan!

Mark

Posted on 11 years ago
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Josh. you are honestly showing your lack of the music business or how it works, Everyone has guest artist Or studio artist work with them on there music, even the Beach Boys.

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Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
#12
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Its the truth, just because some overrate them doesnt mean they lived up to it. It was a hype machine for those needing an interesting crutch. They werent a bad group but they were fabricated by suits that knew how to market well. The english groups never had the talent the americans did but they knew how to run with it. Just because few like to say it how it is doesnt mean it wasnt true. Mcdonalds sells a lotta burgers but they aint the best. Ill give it to the mccartney/martin team, they got many to latch on the bandwagon, but as said before- quantity over quality is what the masses eat up, no matter if its shoved down their throats.

Posted on 11 years ago
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From kookadams

Its the truth, just because some overrate them doesnt mean they lived up to it. It was a hype machine for those needing an interesting crutch. They werent a bad group but they were fabricated by suits that knew how to market well. The english groups never had the talent the americans did but they knew how to run with it. Just because few like to say it how it is doesnt mean it wasnt true. Mcdonalds sells a lotta burgers but they aint the best. Ill give it to the mccartney/martin team, they got many to latch on the bandwagon, but as said before- quantity over quality is what the masses eat up, no matter if its shoved down their throats.

You are a hoot, You of course are right, The Beach Boys are the greatest bestest rock n rolling grope, In these whole wyde wierd. heck that dead dude drummer can out play even

Travis Barker.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
#14
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Im very aware the BBs used studio musicians and SO did the beatles.

Posted on 11 years ago
#15
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I still love the feel and sound of a 14" floor tom. I also love Beatles and Beach Boys music.

Posted on 11 years ago
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From RickP

For many drummers a 14" is easier to tune and get a pleasing sound out of. I like the fact the 14" sounds good tuned up or down, to my ear it has a wider tuning range where it sounds good than a 16" floor tom.

I'm with you there. Seems to me the 14 is just a deadly sounding drum.

Not going to get into the dangerous debate of American vs British musicians and songwriters. I'll paraphrase our old friend Phil Collins, who I believe once said that Americans might have been better musicians, but the British might have been better songwriters. x-mas3

Muchas gracias - El Stinko
Posted on 11 years ago
#17
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From kookadams

Ringo was an ok drummer, nothing special... the beatles wouldve NEVER got off the ground if it werent for george martin, he MADE them!

SO what does this have to do with a 14" drum question the original poster asked? Bit off topic to stir up the masses?

Posted on 11 years ago
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From amosguy

SO what does this have to do with a 14" drum question the original poster asked? Bit off topic to stir up the masses?

He is the original poster the kookster!! Man he is a world of information !!! So the Brits all of em was just a bunch of hyped up Hype great to know !

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

Josh, keep saying this but it still isn't true. The Beatles are one of the best of the best Period .your revisionist history isn't holding no water here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH9zG28GQEg

Agree completely! When they played it was MAGIC.

Nothing to poo-poo on here.

Josh

Posted on 11 years ago
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