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I recently aquired a drum from someone who is a very reputable individual. He stated that the drum I was purchasing was a rare item, as Ludwig only produced a limited number of these drums.

Based on where the serial numbers leave off for the 1979 drums, I am assuming the drum is a 1980. The serial number is 2177200.

Anyway, he stated that Ludwig only made a few hundred of the one piece bronze Super Sensitive drums.

He also told me the drum should sell for somewhere around $900.(obviously top dollar)

When I spoke with another gentelman I know - who also deals in Vintage Drums, he said I was asking way too much.

Please help with this one.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Sorry - the serial number is actually 2177900

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Hmm, I would have to agree that $900 is quite high for that drum. While it is somewhat rare, it does not have the same desirability as a Supraphonic or a pointy B/O badge drum. A late 70's Black Beauty SS tends to sell for around $600, and is a much more desirable drum. I had an extremely rare early 60's lacquered brass Super 400, only a handful are known to be around, and it sold for $1000 shipped.

Please don't get me wrong...you have a truly beautiful, somewhat hard to find drum. But in comparison to similar Ludwig brass and bronze snare drums, I would value yours at around $400 to $600. Of course a retail shop may ask more than that. There's also a good chance that I'm wrong, which happens all the time!

Thanks,

Bill

http://www.classicvintagedrums.com
Posted on 14 years ago
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It appears to be an early 80's badge number. I'm curious why that grommet is slotted, though.

I checked the Vintage Drum Guide and it looks like the smooth bronze Super Sensitives were offered for several years.

$900.00 seems rather high, in my opinion.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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That badge does not look original to that drum. The grommet is incorrect, and it looks like there is a different wear pattern to a previous badge. Still, it's a cool drum and I'm sure it sounds good.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Looks like it's been refinished at some stage. They usually have a clear coat on them.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Wow - The more responses I get - the worse it gets. : (

The badge - I checked it. It appears someone gued this one on. The grommet isn't even holding the badge on. (This seems a little fishy.

Let's assume some idiot did something and removed the badge. - Then tried to reattach it and found he had a problem. - What reason would the person have for doing such a thing?

Posted on 14 years ago
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As Mendozart chimed, this looks very worked over. The entire area aroun d the badge looks like it has been painted after being scraped, and it appears there is even some surface rust under the fresh coat of paint around the area. Someone has scratched this shell up pretty good then looks like tried to paint the rust rather than scrape it off. T Look at the upper right hand corner: that looks, to me, like painted over rust...which makes no sense at all, as a bronze shell would have no iron in it to rust....

Fishy it is indeed....

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Actually, that is alll glue residue. and the dark color is dirt that got into the glue while the person was reattaching the badge, So, theres no rust, it's just a bad glue job.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Yeah, glue I guess can do this as well. Still, why mess with a good drum, though? It makes no sense to me.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 14 years ago
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