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What is a good price for this vintage Rogers set?? Last viewed: 40 minutes ago

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Ok, this has been on the Austin CL forever now with no takers. It's not mine and I don't know the seller.

It's incredibly cool in that the drums are in amazing shape, have the very desirable Dayton tags, has all the original hardware, drum heads, and even shipping boxes (!).

But 4,000? Seems like 1,200 of that is for the boxes. What's a more realistic price for this, Rogers experts?

https://austin.craigslist.org/msg/d/vintage-1968-rogers-drum-set/6233856233.html

Posted on 7 years ago
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Condition & what you get makes 4k reasonable enough. Of course drummers want $h!t for nothing. Ask yourself what this kit would cost new, today. And then ask yourself how much of the desire to own it is because it's vintage. If you're a vintage dude then the answer should be easy.

Posted on 7 years ago
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Yeah, I'm always skeptical when I see Rogers drums at a much higher than average price, but after seeing what's included, $4k doesn't seem unreasonable. All original stands, pedals, throne, Rogers cymbals, original heads...and a COB Dyna-Sonic. That's about as complete a Rogers outfit as you can get.

Vintage kits:
1969 Rogers Holiday - black diamond pearl (20/16/13/12)
196x Star (Lyra/Majestic) - blue sparkle pearl (22/14/13) Restoration Project
1987 Pearl KC-3500 - jet black (22/16/13/12)
Not-so-vintage kits:
2007 Hart Dynamics Professional 6.4 e-kit / Roland TDW-20
Snares:
60s Gretsch 5x14 maple WMP / 68 Ludwig 5x14 Supraphonic / 93 Pearl 3x14 Free Floating brass piccolo / 60s Star (Lyra) 5x14 luan blue sparkle pearl / 87 Pearl 6.5x14 steel
Posted on 7 years ago
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One must consider comps. I searched the internet and couldn't find a comparable kit in factory boxes, with factory cymbals and hardware.

Quite frankly, $4000 is a bargain! Perhaps waving some cash in his face would prompt negotiation.

Either way, seems like a fair asking price if you ask me.

Drum Kits
1965 Ludwig Clubdate Oyster Blue
1966 Ludwig Clubdate Oyster Black
1969 Ludwig BB Blue Oyster Keystone Clubdate
1971 Ludwig BB Black Oyster
Early 60's Camco Oaklawns Champagne Sparkle
Posted on 7 years ago
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I was just curious. I've got all the drums I need or want and am not in the market. I do agree that it will be next to never to see another set like this with everything that is included.

I guess I love the vintage drums and stands and the fact that they are in very good condition with no missing parts, etc. but I am not sentimental about original shipping boxes, heads, invoices, etc. I would neither have the room nor the inclination to keep all the peripheral stuff which seems (in my mind) to be adding quite a bit to the cost.

Appreciate all your opinions!

Posted on 7 years ago
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That looks like a very nice late 60s Rogers set. The cymbals and swan leg stands appear to be very nice, too. Maybe there will be that one person who will come up with four grand for the package. I think the seller is going to have to be very patient until that person sees the Craig's List ad. The seller is advertising Southern California priced used drums and go-withs in central Texas. If the seller is smart about it, he or she is also advertising this same package in Los Angeles and other major markets in some other advertising vehicle that Craig's List. As Indiana Jones would say: "This belongs in a museum".

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 7 years ago
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Maybe it's just me...but I just don't see $4k for this kit! Am I missing something? The Rogers cymbals? It's not like they are top of the line A. Zildjians. The included boxes? The above comment says "This belongs in a museum". Why? To me this is just a Londoner kit.

It's not my nature to come off like this, but I'm still scratching my head at $4k for this kit. I'm pretty knowledgeable with Rogers drums from the 60's to mid 70's. If there is something I'm missing with this kit, please educate me!

-Mark

Posted on 7 years ago
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Let's break it down, I've seen kits as nice sell for less than two grand on ebay. The hardware, maybe another $300-500.The boxes and heads, who cares. The cymbals, again, who cares, unless they were vintage Zildjian or Paiste. I think the seller is a dreamer or he doesn't really want to sell the kit.

Posted on 7 years ago
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Yes, the cymbals are not top-o-the-line. But the boxes, for a collector, will matter. Kit = MINIMUM 2k MEDIAN 2.5k TOP 3k (has the snare); swan leg stands / throne = $750; cymbals = $400. Condition???

Is seller going to fetch this? No. No. And, no. It's bloody CL. But ... a very particular buyer will bat within the ballpark and take home.

I think a buyer would be an a$$hole to offer 2.5k. 3k seems reasonable enough - as in, "They're yours. I want these out of my great room."

Posted on 7 years ago
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See, I think 2.5k is a pretty reasonable offer. By no means did I think the seller will fetch $4k, but felt it's a somewhat reasonable ask given all that's included. It may be "just a Londoner" but its one of the nicest and most complete Londoners I've seen. I think it'll go for around $3k.

The staging could use some work, however.

Vintage kits:
1969 Rogers Holiday - black diamond pearl (20/16/13/12)
196x Star (Lyra/Majestic) - blue sparkle pearl (22/14/13) Restoration Project
1987 Pearl KC-3500 - jet black (22/16/13/12)
Not-so-vintage kits:
2007 Hart Dynamics Professional 6.4 e-kit / Roland TDW-20
Snares:
60s Gretsch 5x14 maple WMP / 68 Ludwig 5x14 Supraphonic / 93 Pearl 3x14 Free Floating brass piccolo / 60s Star (Lyra) 5x14 luan blue sparkle pearl / 87 Pearl 6.5x14 steel
Posted on 7 years ago
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