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1937 WFL Lyre badge "FleaBay Holly Molly" Grail? Last viewed: 2 minutes ago

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From richm

Why on earth would any one break up that kit?????

double post, operator error...

Posted on 11 years ago
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From mchair303

When you think about the effort some refurbishers go through piecing together a vintage set... hunting down and assembling individual drums with the correct finish, hardware, and serial numbers, only to have it split up and orphaned off. It's a real shame. It's even more heartbreaking to see an original, matched set like this one split up. It's no different that putting a bass drum together from a bare shell, taking the expense to put all the correct hardware and hoops on it, only to sell it to someone who then disassembles it and sells it for parts on ebay, negating all your hard work. This happened to me. Guess we can't control what someone does with our projects once we sell them.

I feel completely represented with previous comments


Ludwig '67 Classic B.D.P.
Ludwig '79 Classic Pro-beat
C. A. F. '72 New Sonic "The Argentinean Ludwig"
A bunch of Ludwig snares..... + Dyna & P.Tone.

and always trying to recover some orphan drums!!
Posted on 11 years ago
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I couldn't hold my temper and I had to jump in ..... So I sent to seller a brief mail with my point of view..

Here“s a seller response:

Heraldo,

Thanks for your query. I will probably be listing the rest of this kit by the week's end, and will sell for $1999 + shipping. I understand that is almost a sin to take this snare away from its family and probably should not do that. I don't know its history, but I don't think it was used much, considering its age and condition. It even had the original signed Zildjian cymbals and WFL drum key! It's an outstanding kit that sounds tremendous.

Thanks again for your interest


Ludwig '67 Classic B.D.P.
Ludwig '79 Classic Pro-beat
C. A. F. '72 New Sonic "The Argentinean Ludwig"
A bunch of Ludwig snares..... + Dyna & P.Tone.

and always trying to recover some orphan drums!!
Posted on 11 years ago
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Wow! What a beauty! Personally I think the overall value is hurting the sale by selling the snare drum seperately. Finding WFL drums that old in any finish other than a DUCO,WMP or a BDP is pretty rare. It's even more rare when the sparkle finish still looks decent like this one. I doubt very much anyone would be able to match a drum with the set or vice versa.

I also think a lot of the value lies in the fact that everything is original. It's all been this way for probably close to 76 years now. Just seems wrong to split that apart.

I collect those twin strainer drums and while this one is a beauty, I'm not sure he will get tht price for it. As much as I love them, I'm not sure lots of collectors feel the same way. A lot of those sets did not come with a floor tom either so having that in there is a bonus. The set is also using the early WFL lug that is very primitive. The bass and snare have WFL Imperial lugs while the toms are using a simple lug that was never cataloged.

I also see that the strainers on the snare drum curve in and the earliest models has strainers that pointed more out. I have a lyrye badge WMP twin with snare levers that stick out. Not sure how long they did that before they decide to angle them in. The lyre badge also did not last long as Conn. sue WFL ovet the use of the Ludwig name at the bottom of the badge. Hiopefully the seller comes to his senses and keeps it all together. Just my opinion of coarse....

"wfl does not stand for world football league!"
Posted on 11 years ago
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I messaged the seller as well.

"You're right. I'm going to list the whole kit. Thanks."

Posted on 11 years ago
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That is a sin to sell that snare drum by itself when you have the whole kit. If he only had the snare drum, then that's a different story. There is way too much of that "all I want is the snare drum" nonsense going on out there already. As a true "drum collector/historian" you should be ashamed of yourself for wanting to buy just the snare drum. If you want the snare drum that bad, then buy the whole kit. Owning a warehouse full of "orphan" snare drums doesn't impress me at all. I don't care what year and model they are. All that creates is a whole bunch of broken kits on the market. Grow a pair and buy the whole set! Ok... I'm off my soap box now. Soap Box

"You know what would be great?"
Posted on 11 years ago
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From wflkurt

Wow! What a beauty! Personally I think the overall value is hurting the sale by selling the snare drum seperately. Finding WFL drums that old in any finish other than a DUCO,WMP or a BDP is pretty rare. It's even more rare when the sparkle finish still looks decent like this one. I doubt very much anyone would be able to match a drum with the set or vice versa. I also think a lot of the value lies in the fact that everything is original. It's all been this way for probably close to 76 years now. Just seems wrong to split that apart. I collect those twin strainer drums and while this one is a beauty, I'm not sure he will get tht price for it. As much as I love them, I'm not sure lots of collectors feel the same way. A lot of those sets did not come with a floor tom either so having that in there is a bonus. The set is also using the early WFL lug that is very primitive. The bass and snare have WFL Imperial lugs while the toms are using a simple lug that was never cataloged. I also see that the strainers on the snare drum curve in and the earliest models has strainers that pointed more out. I have a lyrye badge WMP twin with snare levers that stick out. Not sure how long they did that before they decide to angle them in. The lyre badge also did not last long as Conn. sue WFL ovet the use of the Ludwig name at the bottom of the badge. Hiopefully the seller comes to his senses and keeps it all together. Just my opinion of coarse....

Kurt- Love that two-tone pearl finish drum at the bottom right. Beautiful!

Posted on 11 years ago
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From cooper

Kurt- Love that two-tone pearl finish drum at the bottom right. Beautiful!

Yeah, very nice. Kinda reminds me of the Gretsch Expresso Burst finish.

Posted on 11 years ago
#18
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double post, sorry

Posted on 11 years ago
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From cooper

Kurt- Love that two-tone pearl finish drum at the bottom right. Beautiful!

That is beautiful. How was this two-tone pearl manufactured?

Kurt, what's the purpose of the white fabric between the snares and the reso heads on your snares? Is this just to eliminate sympathetic snare vibration, or is this some kind of protection for long term storage?

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 11 years ago
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