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Bass Drum Cut-Down, 25" > 22" Last viewed: 4 hours ago

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Some of you might remember I cut some 25" BD hoops down to 22". Well, that left a 25" shell, didn't it? :)

I have this 25" bass drum for free, and the heads are rotted out anyway [basement flood]. It's from the 30's, as the hand-written date on the middle re-ring suggests. It's a section shell, so I was anticipating problems. A section shell might be expected to crack inward away from the outer ply as the shell is "tightened" to a smaller size.

My first thought was to do it like the cut-down hoops - use an outer form to squeeze the shell into. First pics show I taped rubber shims all around the shell to use 22" hoops - the ID of the hoops would make the shell too big if used alone. The plies did not separate, but the re-rings wanted to pop out. So I popped em out. At this point the "skin", or plies, collapsed inward, coiling into itself. Interesting...

Fumbling on ahead, I had my partner Michelle help me clamp the plies to the right size cylinder, using a drum head for a guide. The cylinder dried up quite misshapen, however when I inserted the first re-ring things looked good - the plies took the shape and we were in round, on one end anyway.

Today I glued in the center ring and remaining outer ring, and it looks like she's a go! It's extra awesome because I can use the single tension rods that came with the drum, which work only on a 12" deep shell. I'll be marking and drilling holes for 10 rod holders, since the original holes are all whacked now with the re-sizing. I guess I'll fill those.

The outer ply is mahogany, so when I strip it it will work nicely with the "Rustic Mahogany" Club Date kit. This is good since I have to sell my blonde Gretsch/Ludwig kit, and I did want a 22" BD to go with the Club Dates.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Here's the plies coiled inward...nope, pic is too big. I'll just upload whatever pics will upload.

As I get this stripped and put together I'll update this thread...

Mitch

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Mitch - What brand drum was that? Looks like vertical grain Luan. (Asian mahogany) Is it an MIJ drum from 1938? If so, it'll be the first one I've seen from that era. Interesting drum.

Nice job. I always enjoy watching your projects. Great woodworking stuff! :D

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
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Cool undertaking.

Were you able to overlap, underlap and weave in the plys at the joint?

Or is it a butte joint or a 45 degree or???

Very crafty with the heads (rings?) and hoops as form shapes.

22" heads? Yeah we got those.:D

BLAEMIRE DRUMS
Thanks to Mr. Jerry Jenkins
Posted on 10 years ago
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Thanks John! It's a bit tough with no shop and using Barbie's Beach House clamps...lol not that bad but I could use some more and better clamps!

Far as I know the drum is some sort of student model Leedy - it came with the nickel 8-lug single flange snare I have [and will never part with]. Maybe it's Ludwig. I guess the vertical grain is a function of it being a section shell...?

These drums are on permanent loan from a highschool friend. I of course let him know of the damage, and this way I will be able to continue actually using the BD - no way I'm going to spend the $$ on 25" calf heads...and he really don't care one way or the other.

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Cool undertaking.Were you able to overlap, underlap and weave in the plys at the joint?Or is it a butte joint or a 45 degree or???Very crafty with the heads (rings?) and hoops as form shapes.22" heads? Yeah we got those.:D

The join is the stupid bit - I should have left a couple more inches of overlap. The two ends are simply overlapped and glued, no special treatment at all. I plan to use the leftover cut out section in two parts, between the rings, on the inside to strengthen the join. One small section to create a level surface, and a larger one to bridge the join. Sort of as "plates" glued in there. Meanwhile it's holding quite well anyway...

Stay tuned...

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Cool, holding is good.

Sounds like a good plan to use the cut out plies to strengthen.

Nice idea Man.

It's holding....Yay:D

BLAEMIRE DRUMS
Thanks to Mr. Jerry Jenkins
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> no way I'm going to spend the $$ on 25" calf heads..

Oh Lord, please don't talk to me about the price of calf heads. I just paid last months rent for the guy that owns Stern Tanning when I was doing Blue! LOL

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
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You are doing an outstanding job. Very interesting and informative.

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From green glass drum

Cool, holding is good.Sounds like a good plan to use the cut out plies to strengthen.Nice idea Man.It's holding....Yay:D

The idea kind of forced itself, with the shell being extra useless once I cut the hoops down. It makes it super easy to part with the 22" Ludwig I've been using. This one is pretty much 1000 times more special. Also it's 22X12, which is neat. And mahogany...[and 80 yrs old]

Pic shows how it maybe shouldn't be holding, with the minimal overlap used. Solid all the way down the join though. Elmer's wood glue is pretty good I guess...

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