I'd say the rerings were probably removed if that is indeed a Jasper shell. Jasper made shells for Camco during the Oaklawn & Chanute eras. Keller supplied Camco with shells during the L.A. era

The shell doesn't look to have been tampered with, and the person I bought it from knew very little about it. There are no signs of there ever being rerings. Have you never seen any without?

Thanks for any info.

Ryan vonR.

I've never seen one. I'll ask Joe (JoLo) as he's seen far more Camco drums than I have.

I'm a little late on this because it's summertime in Minnesota!

Camco and Geo Way always offered 24" bass drums though they are very rare. Those project drums were from the end of the Oaklawn era and all drums of that era should of had, as stated in their catalogs, 6-Ply bonded shells with reinforcing hoops (rings). The 24" bass drums came with 10 lugs per side instead of 8 making them extremely heavy.

The photo isn't very clear but that bass shell looks like a Gretsch which was made by Jasper and, if so, it should be a great sounding drum.

Now the Oaklan era is a whole different story...:rolleyes:

The drum has an Oaklawn badge, Ten lugs per side, and I would say a thicker shell than the Gretsch's I have seen. The inside is a clear finish, and the outer finish under all that paint looks like a matching brown wood grain finish. If it was a built drum, it was done long ago. They show their age. Thanks for the info, I sure would like to have another 24 to compare it to, and I have heard at least one person say they have one, but the rarity makes me wonder about it..

Yes typically the 24s came with 10 lugs per side but it wasn't even 6 months ago a gentleman was selling an Oaklawn 6ply Jasper era set with a 24" bass drum that was a special order and had only 8 lugs per side. Since it had Roger's tom mounts installed at the Hollywood drum shop, he didnt get what he was asking and ended up selling it on ebay. I seriously doubt that Ryans bass drum is a Gretsch and my 24" has that Unmistakable Camco Walnut finish that could only have been done at the factory!!!

Hi Slingalud, Do you know if the Hollywood Drum Shop 24 had re-rings and does your 24 have re-rings?

I'm still wondering... One 24" without re-rings may be a fluke. Two or three definitely would definitely mean something. I've seen a lot of Camcos and I've never seen one (all three eras) without re-rings... WWGD

The 24 special order that was pictured here on the forum some time ago had re-rings and 16 lugs. The original owner was selling and stated that Camco would not install the Roger's hardware so they did at the drum shop where he purchased them. Just thought I would add that in case anyone was interested. My 24" does not have re-rings and has the clear unpainted interior, 6ply Jasper shell, 20 lugs, 4 spurs and 45 plus years of ever so slight gunk around the badge area. Like a mentioned previously, the Camco Walnut finish is unmistakable. I believe it was either ordered that way because there is no sign of it ever having or being removed. Or it could have been sent to Camco by accident and instead of returning it, they sold it as a B-stock set?

I wish that there was better information around on Camcos. I have tried to look this drum over for any clues to it being anything other than a factory Camco drum. The guy I bought it from had pictures of him playing it in the early 90s, maybe late 80s, and that's about as early as I have for history on it. As for the drum. The interior is a matching clear finish, there are no extra holes at all, all of the drum hardware holes are drilled correctly, and fit well, and the original finish that I scraped down to looks like a walnut, or alike dark wood grain. The 6 plies are a little thicker than the toms plies, but without the rerings, I would think a 24 shell of matching thickness would be very flimsy. The bearing edge is more of a roundover edge than the tom's more angle cut sharper edge. the badge is tight and in place, and the grommet looks the same as the toms, but the flange at the backside of it just bells a little as opposed to the toms that rounds over. But as the shell is a little thicker, the stock Camco grommet would not have reached completely through to round over.