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If the Pearl mount installation was done well, you can work around that or use it. But, I would hold back on including the cymbals if your Ludwigs are unmolested. Have the toms also been altered with Pearl receivers?

Jamie was playing for Clapton the last time I saw him in a live performance. He has great taste in drums. As I recall, he's a University of North Texas alum.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 12 years ago
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I think the 13" tom has a Pearl type mount as well, my kit is all original with no extra holes.

Posted on 12 years ago
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What are your Ludwigs? Getting a Chanute kit with extra holes for a gold sparkle Ludwig kit is not that great of a deal IMO.

1957 George Way BDP 26" concert bass drum
1959 George Way BDP 22/12/16 w/ 5.5x14
1959 George Way Green Sparkle 22/12/16 w/5.5x14
1961 George Way Blue Sparkle 20/12/15
1961 George Way Jelly Bean 20/12/14 w/4.5x14
1960’s Camco Oaklawn Champagne 20/12/14/16w/5x14
1971-73 Camco Chanute Walnut 24/14/18 w/5x14 COB
Posted on 12 years ago
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From DolFan54

What are your Ludwigs? Getting a Chanute kit with extra holes for a gold sparkle Ludwig kit is not that great of a deal IMO.

+1

I wouldn't do this one. Those Pearl mounts are seriously fuggly. They ruin perfectly good drums.

What Would You Do
Posted on 12 years ago
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From johnnyringo

There is a double tom arm and no extra holes.

From johnnyringo

I think the 13" tom has a Pearl type mount as well

...well, which one is it?

1970 Ludwig Downbeat
1965 Ludwig Hollywood
1970 Ludwig Jazzette
Posted on 12 years ago
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From caddywumpus

...well, which one is it?

I only found out later about the extra holes, when I initially saw the kit it was high up on a shelf and I didn't notice the mount on the kick. I was in a hurry and did not have them take it down to inspect it, the store is in Houston and I was heading back to San Antonio. When I called them the next day, the owner told me all the details.

BTW, why are drums made in Chanute considered less valuable than the ones made in Oaklawn? From what I understand they used the same shells and basically just moved from Oaklawn to Chanute, using the same workers.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From johnnyringo

I only found out later about the extra holes, when I initially saw the kit it was high up on a shelf and I didn't notice the mount on the kick. I was in a hurry and did not have them take it down to inspect it, the store is in Houston and I was heading back to San Antonio. When I called them the next day, the owner told me all the details.BTW, why are drums made in Chanute considered less valuable than the ones made in Oaklawn? From what I understand they used the same shells and basically just moved from Oaklawn to Chanute, using the same workers.

Kinda the same reason why Rogers made in Fullerton are worth less than those made in Ohio. Its a quality control issue in both cases, according to some. Collectors are funny/fickle people sometimes. I'd be happy to own a Rogers Fullerton set or ANY REAL Camco set (meaning NOT the Tama-Camcos) if it was in good shape. The Pearl mounts do kind of put a spoiler on things though, much like when people drilled the bass drum for that large hole that's required for a Ludwig double tom mount. I see alot of "ruined" Rogers, Camco, Slingerland, and Gretsch bass drum shells for sale on CL and Ebay with the mod for the Ludwig mount. The purist collector wants the "correct" brand specific mount on the drum, but if YOU can live with it and the fact that it brings the value down some, then I say go for it.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From Ludwig-dude

Kinda the same reason why Rogers made in Fullerton are worth less than those made in Ohio. Its a quality control issue in both cases, according to some. Collectors are funny/fickle people sometimes. I'd be happy to own a Rogers Fullerton set or ANY REAL Camco set (meaning NOT the Tama-Camcos) if it was in good shape. The Pearl mounts do kind of put a spoiler on things though, much like when people drilled the bass drum for that large hole that's required for a Ludwig double tom mount.

Gotta agree. I play Dayton Rogers. Added a Fullerton Tom, and there's no real difference in sound. Camco appears to be the same. Collectors are different then players. Did Oldraker care which plant?

People whine about the Pearl mount, but it's better. The originals weren't good,they slipped, etc. That's why they got changed out! My Rogers has a Pearl mt. Tried a set w/ a Swivo. Keeping the Pearl. If you hate the looks enough, you can change the arms out to Yamaha for a nicer look.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Not ALL Oaklawn drums are ones that collectors want. The reason Oaklawn is the one to get is specifically early to mid-60's Oaklawn. Those are the ones with COB hoops and chubby washers. The quality control did go down with Chanute and as a result it's also much harder to get a good sounding Chanute drum than an Oaklawn. But a good one will sound just as good. In the right sizes a Chanute kit can command some serious coin. Chanute was run by Kustom from 1971-73 and by that time drums had gotten pretty darn large. Finding an 18" or 20" bass drum with 14" floor toms were pretty much nonexistent in that era.

This one is WAY over priced. It should be $1500 at the high end.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Camco-3pc-3-piece-Kit-Drum-Set-Kit-Chanute-Kansas-Badge-Red-Sparkle-70s-/360486955905?pt=Vintgae_Drums_Percussion&hash=item53eeb26b81

1957 George Way BDP 26" concert bass drum
1959 George Way BDP 22/12/16 w/ 5.5x14
1959 George Way Green Sparkle 22/12/16 w/5.5x14
1961 George Way Blue Sparkle 20/12/15
1961 George Way Jelly Bean 20/12/14 w/4.5x14
1960’s Camco Oaklawn Champagne 20/12/14/16w/5x14
1971-73 Camco Chanute Walnut 24/14/18 w/5x14 COB
Posted on 12 years ago
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From johnnyringo

I only found out later about the extra holes, when I initially saw the kit it was high up on a shelf and I didn't notice the mount on the kick. I was in a hurry and did not have them take it down to inspect it, the store is in Houston and I was heading back to San Antonio. When I called them the next day, the owner told me all the details.BTW, why are drums made in Chanute considered less valuable than the ones made in Oaklawn? From what I understand they used the same shells and basically just moved from Oaklawn to Chanute, using the same workers.

The only thing that changed was the location and the letters on the badges. That's why I refer to it as the 6ply Jasper era, (Oaklawn and Chanute) everything including the catalog part numbers were the same. There is no evidence what so ever, that the Chanute 6ply Jasper era drums are less valuable, only the opinion(s) of 1 or 2. Which in my eyes, is absolutely worthless.

Posted on 12 years ago
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