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Does the Barryabko pic finally answer the question of Ringos snare? Last viewed: 44 minutes ago

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Using a relatively high res of pic from Barryabko, and after measuring a bowtie lug from my Jazz fest (2 3/4") then converting that to pixels... using the pixel count to reconstruct a ruler in Photoshop I came up with Ringo's snare being exactly 6 3/16" from rim to rim...

I measured the offset from rim to bearing edge (again on my own drum) at 1/4" on the top, and 5/16" on the bottom, I come up with Ringo's shell being between 5-9/16" and 5-11/16" high.

Well that's my guess anyway. Any flaws in the methodology here?

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Inconclusive !i That distance is dictated by how the drum is tuned !I If your head has stretched, same dictation !i

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Posted on 12 years ago
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agreed. but nice work there in trying to figure it out.

mike

Posted on 12 years ago
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From OddBall

Inconclusive !i That distance is dictated by how the drum is tuned !I If your head has stretched, same dictation !i

well there is ONE small clue that helps a little and that is that we can see the hole for the snare wires in the bottom rim and we can "sorta" see where they lay flat against the head. There are several problems with this of course. The hole is not perfectly lined up with the lug I used a reference, the "dip" in the bearing edge for the snare wires, and the inability to see exactly where they lay flat.

Still, using the same measurement I am estimating the bottom gap from rim edge to bearing edge at about 5/16" to 3/8" which is pretty consistent with my findings.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Did you get the stamps on those pies ?

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Not sure why I didn't think of this before but here is a slightly improved version using a picture of an actual ruler from the internet. Findings are largely the same.

S0 how much variance can there be in the "rim depth" by stretching the head more or less? I guess I should point out on my drum, the one I used for reference the head is pretty tight... As a matter of fact it can't really be too much tighter.. sooo... it is unlikely that Ringo's snare in this pic is actually tighter as a matter of fact you'd have to assume it is somewhat loose given that it is only set up for looks. Which would leave a narrower gap, not larger.. which leads us once again to AT LEAST 5 1/2" shell depth.

I know not absolutely conclusive but I am becoming increasingly convinced that it is.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From OddBall

Did you get the stamps on those pies ?

This is not my photo. I used a photo that barryabko posted in another forum. Although I do live in LA, have a very good camera and plan to see the exhibit and get the best photos I possible can.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Look at the distance from the top of the lugs to the head-ring on the batter side, then on the reso, you will see how much these heads can stretch. Keep in mind those lugs are centered on the shell !i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

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Posted on 12 years ago
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That`s why a snaregate is so wide, to allow for travel !i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From OddBall

Look at the distance from the top of the lugs to the head-ring on the batter side, then on the reso, you will see how much these heads can stretch. Keep in mind those lugs are centered on the shell !i

Yeah it's about 1 1/8" on the bottom and only about 13/16" on the top.

So about 5/16" difference.

Plus I have it backward in my previous post. If the heads were loose, the gap would be greater, equating to a shallower shell. Urgh.

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