Only Admins can see this message.
Data Transition still in progress. Some functionality may be limited until the process is complete.
Processing Attachment, Gallery - 183.37370%

Drum Volume question Last viewed: 2 hours ago

Loading...

I know there are a lot of pro drummers here. Im not by any means. I just love drums and can hold my own and keep a beat so Im told. I am in the process of setting up a stage at our JamHole. We have a very diverse group of players that frequent the JamHole. We will be having full blown electric guitars plugged in jams as well as acoustic plugged in jams. The acoustic guys dont want the drums to be extremly loud. My question is: What can I do to turn down the volume of the drum kit? Will a drum shield do the trick? Are there any particular heads that are quitter? Those bambo stick thingies ? I know this really isn't a vintage drum issue, but I know some of you know about this sort of issue. Any advice or experience will be greatly appreciated.

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 11 years ago
#1
Loading...

Hi Poppy!

IMHO, best thing to do with the volume issue, with minimum alteration of normal features of resonance, fundamental notes, etc. is to surround your drum kit with foam acustic panels, which b.t.w., gives a dry sound but doesn´t "kill" resonance as some mufflers or external "devices" (read towels, etc.) over the heads, etc

You can also use some lightweight drumsticks (as AJ5 V. Firth´s) in order to reduce impact and volume.

Regards!


Ludwig '67 Classic B.D.P.
Ludwig '79 Classic Pro-beat
C. A. F. '72 New Sonic "The Argentinean Ludwig"
A bunch of Ludwig snares..... + Dyna & P.Tone.

and always trying to recover some orphan drums!!
Posted on 11 years ago
#2
Posts: 1597 Threads: 96
Loading...

Put up a shield plexiglass, other than that tell the accoustic guys if they are playing with a drummer to plug in..... otherwise unless you are playing a waltz you are hamstringing the drummer, you can not play when you are trying to be quiet, or putting towels on the heads etc.... make everyone the same volume...... then add or subtract as needed for the mix.

Posted on 11 years ago
#3
Loading...

Play with brushes. Or, just play quietly. It's a lot harder to play well soft than it is loud but it is possible. Think of it as a way to help you improve your technique even though it is a pain in the butt. I also agree that the accoustic guys should plug into an amp if they are playing with more than one other guy.

Posted on 11 years ago
#4
Loading...

Play softer. It's a art to play softly AND imply intensity. Practice with a metronome at three volumes (FF=mF- and pp) so that you can switch evenly between them. If you can't easily hear the rest if the instruments, you are probably hitting too hard.

Tom Swift
Swift Kick Productions
http://www.swift-kick-productions.com/
Posted on 11 years ago
#5
Loading...

I have to agree with tomswift, it is art to play soft and easy, but like the starter of the tread said, not everybody is a pro! I am a normal working guy who plays in a Rockband, and i am quite good at Rock, but i probably would fail in playing really soft and noiseless:-)

But i found out that(we sometimes do our set in the acoustic way), when you use a drumset with very little konfiguration, like a 10" or 8" racktom a 12" or 13" floortom and a 16" Bassdrum and you play the set with rods, you can play just like you play on your regular set and you are not loud!

So the acoustic guys can not complain then;-)

You should give this a try:-)

regards

Christian

Posted on 11 years ago
#6
Loading...

The acoustic guys will be plugged in but not shattering the windows.

I was wondering about smaller drums and those rods. Thanks for the input guys!

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 11 years ago
#7
Loading...

Poppy,

You pose a valid question... how not to play loud.

Without electronic amplification, you simply cannot "turn down" an acoustic instrument (guitar, piano, sax, violin, whatever). Everyone who plays an acoustic instrument (and drums are an acoustic instrument) needs to learn how to play dynamically, both loud and soft, depending upon the conditions. Lighter sticks or any of the various split rods will help you play quieter without changing your style significantly. I play in an acoustic jazz quartet and find brushes give me all the volume I need. Remember that you are not the primary instrument. Just keep a soft beat (softer than you normally play) behind those acoustic guitars and don't worry if you're loud enough for the audience to hear... you will be. Too many drummer think they have to play as loud as the lead instruments. Good luck, have fun, and hope it all goes well.

Mike

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 11 years ago
#8
Loading...

As I said in my original post. It will be plugged in acoustic. Y'all have given me plenty of pliable solutions thanks!!!

From mchair303

Poppy,You pose a valid question... how not to play loud. Without electronic amplification, you simply cannot "turn down" an acoustic instrument (guitar, piano, sax, violin, whatever). Everyone who plays an acoustic instrument (and drums are an acoustic instrument) needs to learn how to play dynamically, both loud and soft, depending upon the conditions. Lighter sticks or any of the various split rods will help you play quieter without changing your style significantly. I play in an acoustic jazz quartet and find brushes give me all the volume I need. Remember that you are not the primary instrument. Just keep a soft beat (softer than you normally play) behind those acoustic guitars and don't worry if you're loud enough for the audience to hear... you will be. Too many drummer think they have to play as loud as the lead instruments. Good luck, have fun, and hope it all goes well.Mike

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 11 years ago
#9
Loading...

It's all about which drum kit you choose. You can't rely on the drummers who pass through to have the skills needed to play well softly. I'd start out with a 3-ply mahogany kit because mahogany drums are known for two things; fat, warm tone and -low volume-!

A low volume 3-ply mahogany kit can be mic'd up for electric music and simply left un-mic'd for acoustic sets. Lighter weight sticks will reduce the volume even further.

Start with choosing the right drums!

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
#10
  • Share
  • Report
Action Another action Something else here