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Information Request - Ludwig's 'B' lines Last viewed: 3 hours ago

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Hello folks!

Another forum member and myself are doing some research. We're going to attempt to timeline and document Ludwig's 'B' lines of drums, including:

Standard (original)

Standard (2nd issue)

Combo

Combo II

S/L (Standard Line)

Rocker

Rocker II

I'm mostly interested in information on American shells, but I won't turn down anything.

What I want is pictures, badge pictures showing serial #'s, serial #'s and stamped or written dates from the shells, hardware descriptions and pictures of same. The more pictures, the merrier!

This is a good place to start for now, please do not reply with any information through the Private Messaging. It just tends to muck up the works of the thing. Instead, please email me directly at: drums at fishwlatz dot com

Thanks in advance for any and everything! Bowing

Craig

fishwaltz
Posted on 13 years ago
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Everything you need to know is here:

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/ludwig_standards.htm

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/ludwig_rockers.html

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/serial_numbers.html

Posted on 13 years ago
#2
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Craig,

This is great! I for one would like to see more info (than what is available, which is great info but not complete) on this kind of stuff. Particularly serial number information on the B/W badges.

I have a set of B/W Ludwig Rockers (4-ply shells, clear interiors) that I need to get started on. As soon as I get the chance I'll check to see if there's dates stamps on the inside (not sure there is) and then forward you the info. Anything else I can do to help out, let me know...

Bill

Bill
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Posted on 13 years ago
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Hi LD,

Yep, I'm very aware of those pages, I've used them often. The information is a bit sketchy in spots though, especially hardware differences and changes. What we intend is an in depth and comprehensive paper that will include time lines and shell descriptions and information. Yes, some of our information will mirror, and be drawn from what is already available. However, our intention is for this to be much more detailed.

Thanks!

fishwaltz
Posted on 13 years ago
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Hi Bill!

Great! That is exactly what is needed for this. The B/W, Combo and Educator lines are very undocumented, anywhere. The Standard line(s) are a bit more documented, but not much more. Some, if not most of these are desirable American shells... it's time to get them on paper. Your pictures and badge / shell / hardware info will be MUCH appreciated!

Thanks!

Craig

fishwaltz
Posted on 13 years ago
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i can give a little help. ive got an original ludwig vistalite combo in blue. have owned it for years. was in cases,original heads,beautiful shells. original plastic lugs. these drums were shown in the catalog with an acro and thats what mine came with. i am missing the floor tom though...

12 tom serial number 4463

13 tom 4429

22 bass 4409

acrolite 1669561

hope this helps some. i too do a lot of documentation/dating of a certain ludwig era. good stuff!

mike

Posted on 13 years ago
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From mlayton

i can give a little help. ive got an original ludwig vistalite combo in blue. have owned it for years. was in cases,original heads,beautiful shells. original plastic lugs. these drums were shown in the catalog with an acro and thats what mine came with. i am missing the floor tom though...12 tom serial number 446313 tom 442922 bass 4409acrolite 1669561hope this helps some. i too do a lot of documentation/dating of a certain ludwig era. good stuff!mike

That is exactly the type of info I'm looking for! WOuld you mid posting or sending pictures?

fishwaltz
Posted on 13 years ago
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will also help with my blue astros gary

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 13 years ago
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I have the S-330 Lemon Strata kit. Gray painted interiors. No date stamp and no paper label.

12X8 Ser. No. 84916

13X9 Ser. No. 84902

16X16 No. 84989

22X14 No. 84196

14"Snare No. 84962

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1965 Club Date/Downbeat Combo Blue Sparkle
Cleveland Rogers COB Powertone snare
1965 Ludwig Supra Snare
Posted on 13 years ago
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From fishwaltz

That is exactly the type of info I'm looking for! WOuld you mid posting or sending pictures?

no problem. will post some pics in the next few days or sooner...glad to help.

mike

Posted on 13 years ago
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