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Ludwig School Festival 8x15 Value? Last viewed: 6 minutes ago

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From K.O.

Brass lugs? They'd be a zinc alloy like all other lugs (except tube lugs and B&B Rogers)

Brass is a zinc/copper alloy. :)

Posted on 10 years ago
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I could be mistaken but the wrap looks like it is badley faded green sparkle, unless it's something funky with the way the pictures were taken.

Posted on 10 years ago
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From superclassic

I could be mistaken but the wrap looks like it is badley faded green sparkle, unless it's something funky with the way the pictures were taken.

It does appear that way doesn't it,? down at the bottom of the wrap especially.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 10 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

It does apper that way doesn't it,? down at the bottom of the wrap especially.

Yeah, in the dark picture with the strainer...you can see green sparkle just under the top hoop. I think that's a good indication this drum was once a green sparkle beauty.

Posted on 10 years ago
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From Timmy Deutsch

K.O. You're saying the lugs wont be brass? Just hoops? I shouldn't be alarmed if the magnet sticks to the lugs? Thanks for the wrap tip!

Magnets don't stick to zinc either so they won't stick to the lugs unless it is attracted to some of the steel parts inside the lug.

Lugs are die-cast parts, brass has too high of a melting point to be cast in dies (it has to be cast using other methods) so lugs and other die cast parts are (and were) cast from other alloys, sometimes called "pot-metal". Usually zinc based. Lugs have been made of this since the beginning so they wouldn't be brass, nor should they be.

Posted on 10 years ago
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It's definitely a faded green sparkle. I actually like this shade of green. Ive got a red/green/gold 12x15 clubdate tenor tom that has this same fade. An 8x12 tom just sold on ebay. It too had this fade shade of green.

Mike

Posted on 10 years ago
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I just tried a magnet on my lugs it does stick to them but not the way it would if they were steel. Just a heads up Timmy.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 10 years ago
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Thank you all SO much for this information! I'm learning so much here and I love it! As a 22 year old that loves vintage drums, I love learning about them just as much and you guys always deliver!

I am red green colorblind so thank you for telling me it's green, I thought it was gold, ha! I'm still interested no matter the color/fade but I feel a little better knowing the color :p

Also a major thanks to the info on the hardware/what lugs are made of, loved learning that! I'm curious to stick a magnet on lugs in comparison to steel Moore, will have to try it out!

Posted on 10 years ago
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There is no way that throw-off was factory placed with the two mount screws interfering with hoop travel.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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I wonder if this was originally a 15x12 marching snare, but was converted into a School Festival. Out of the three that I have done, two of them had the strainer originally mounted lower. When disengaged, the bottom of the strainer was actually positioned close to the gate on the bottom hoop.

Also notice that there are at least two lug mounting screws missing from the top set of lugs. They might have been misplaced from a disassemble and cleaning or the screws might have broken off inside the threads.

If this was a conversion, the asking price is really too high, in my opinion.

-Tim

Posted on 10 years ago
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