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Slingerland Artist 1 ply or 3? Last viewed: 7 minutes ago

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I have this snare that is next up on my list of restorations and I was wondering if there was any way to tell if it was 1 or 3ply before I take it apart? The drum came to me re-wrapped in a crappy basic red and the interior is painted white. From what I can tell it is an early 60's Artist Model. Any insight from the Slingy Guru's would be great. Thanks!

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1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 10 years ago
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Based on the Zoomatic strainer and extended buttplate, I would also guess Artist model and yes...those were solid maple shells! Didn't know them to be painted white on the inside, though. Probably an after-market job like the wrap job.

- EMD
Posted on 10 years ago
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Thanks Elf! What year did they switch from 1 to 3ply?

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 10 years ago
#3
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Definitely an Artist model snare drum. The Artist came in both 1-ply and 3-ply shells. My 1967 Artist is 3-ply. Chances are good that your drum is 1-ply maple. Just remove the top head and you'll easily see. Let us know!

Mark

Posted on 10 years ago
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Indeed a Slingerland Artist! I have a 1968 Buddy Rich "Artist" and it is SOLID SHELL, so the interior is all natural. Wires are OEM too! Here's a pic. Perhaps under that white paint yours will look like this!

Tommyp

Posted on 10 years ago
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Finally got this thing stripped down. Got the wrap off without any problem. Still can't tell if it is a 1 ply because of the painted edge but if I were to guess I would say it is. Here are a couple shots with her clothes off.

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1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 10 years ago
#6
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I would say that is 1-ply also. Way to go!

- EMD
Posted on 10 years ago
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Based on that overlap seam, it most likely is 1-ply maple.

-Mark

Posted on 10 years ago
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Thanks for the input! I was hoping that overlap seam might be an indicator of a 1 ply shell.

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 10 years ago
#9
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I'm not sure if that's a 1 ply based on the picture that shows the edge of the shell. I see some small gaps there that usually only show up in the poplar center ply of a three ply shell (since the poplar grain runs up and down rather than around the drum. Hard to say based on the pictures but you should be able to see if there are three plies through the various holes in the shell.

I have two 1 ply artists and they both have clear interiors and no visible gaps along the edges.

Either way they are great snare drums.

Posted on 10 years ago
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