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What is the definition of a real drum builder as opposed to a Drum assembler? Last viewed: 1 second ago

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From O-Lugs

If a man living in a little stone cottage in the depths of the Black Forest is able to forge all his own metal parts and cut down all the lumber and process it into the finest wooden shells and spend hundreds of hours completing the job to absolute perfection, then what should he be called?If a man grabs a handful of lugs from a bin of lugs that have all been designed and built by the company he works for and affixes them to some shells that he takes from a shelf of shells that the company he works for has designed and made...and so on...and he ends up with a drum set that follows the patterns set forth by that company, then what should he be called?What about the guy who outsources work to other companies to make components exclusively for him and according to his specs and has them shipped in where he then puts them together? What's he called?And what about the guy who looks in catalogs and orders a bunch of generic parts fabricated at other factories and then amasses them into his own "mixture" and ends up with a drum set....What should he be called?

This one`s easy,..

1st, that man is a drum builder !!

2nd, That company is a manufacturer wich includes drum building in it`s departments !!

3rd is a designer in this case, drums !!

4th guy is the same as the third !!

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 13 years ago
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One drawback to owning a boutique drum is the dismal resale value. especially the little known builders maybe 5% of the entire crop of custom builders have a large enough reputation to garner and increase on your initial investment. I track them sometimes and you can get some great bargain for Low money, I bought a Joe Montineri from Guitar center for $125.00 the wrap was so ugly it was beautiful, it looked like melted chocolate chip ice cream. sold it on ebay for $215.00 on ebay not bad but not great, on the other hand I owned a Craviotto limited edition black walnut paid $395.00 for it sold it for $965.00 on ebay but Johnny is world class and very well known.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
#62
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vintagemore,

I'm totally impressed that you found a Craviotto Limited for $395! Shut the front door! Where did you find that steal of a deal???

-kellyj

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 13 years ago
#63
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From kellyj

vintagemore,I'm totally impressed that you found a Craviotto Limited for $395! Shut the front door! Where did you find that steal of a deal???-kellyj

It was back in 2001 got it from long Island drum Center, I was good friends with the then manager. they had three of them wished I'd bought all 3 of them. definetly a great return on my money. I just didn't care for the sound of it . It was to high pitched for my taste. it was a 5x14".

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
#64
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Craviotto,N&C,GMS,JN,..Probably a couple more that would make a wise investment..oh..Lang Percussion and Leedy also...I think because of the internet the weasals,dinks,and crooks have all surfaced by now,but never let your guard down...I tip my hat to you guys making stave shells on the side. I was doing that 20 years ago and made a few beauties. Keep doing that work,you,ll be surprised how much you will learn about wood and sound.

Hit like you mean it!!
Posted on 13 years ago
#65
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So was Craviotto a drum assembler when he was with DW and then became a drum builder when he started his own business? Oh boy ! No need to answer that. Just being a s*** disturberFalling Do

-kellyj

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 13 years ago
#66
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You already answered that.

Hit like you mean it!!
Posted on 13 years ago
#67
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From stu_p

That was what I was trying to say about ford and chevy in the whole builder vs. assembler deBate. Your a smart guy for being a class clown lolSo then is vintage more 2k a drum cleaner? Is for and Chevy car assemblers? Is bunnyman a pole assembler?

No!! actually stu_pid you or rather bunnyman would be a pole fluffer. FYI

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
#68
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Ok guy's my take on this.A drum assembler is someone or one person who has say Keller shells that come in done,edges,wraped,drilled ete.They order parts from one of many drum parts site and put the drum together put's their name on them ans sell's them...A drum Builder or custom drum builder to me is what we were at O.C.D.P..We used Keller shells them came in 4 feet to 6 feet tubes,4,6,8,10,ply.We cut the shell's to whatever size We added the inside rings by hand in any plys.Cut the edge's ,wrapped,drilled, ete all by hand.We also did in house painting of the shells most were dome by me..Yes it true that we used other maker's parts when we started out.But we always picked out the best made parts that we could fine,parts as far as lug's.strainer's,rim's.mount's..But in 2004 we came out with are own lug had them made in the U.S.A almost around the corner from the shop...Also a side note the badge's we had made next door to us from day one are badge's never did change on the top ended drums that we made...i would also like to say a drum re-storer is not the same as a drum builder or assembler....Mikey

Posted on 13 years ago
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Mikey,

Sounds like you were a drum builder because you had to "craft" the Keller shells and use your hands and head to do so, putting on your own touches, measuring cutting, carefully, tightening screws to the proper torque etc....

-kellyj

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 13 years ago
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