The Statue of limitations has run out for the larceny, but the guilt remains,...I agree with the others here,...donate them to a good cause, and eat the value !!

they were stolen off a train new....not from someone particular....the only one who missed out on these drums was the store they were going to sit in.....relax with your bad mojo crap...... sorry i didnt know this was a christian drum forum for only saints...........

No saints here.But a thief is a thief.Buying stolen goods and trying to conceal the fact is the same as stealing.

You think that selling stolen goods and pocketing the money is justifiable somehow?Sorry but I don't see the grey area here as clearly as you do,because to me , it truly is just a black and white issue,and a matter of right and wrong here.The jails are full of criminals who seem to justify stealing as no big deal.

Bad mojo crap?We're just telling it like it is.To bad if you don't want to hear it.How about doing the right thing while you have the chance.

Steve B

While stealing from a train makes it a somewhat faceless crime, remember that it still affected someone's bottom line... Drum shoppes are owned by PEOPLE, not HUGE CORPORATIONS.

Do what makes you feel good.

Geez! I have a set of "hot drums" can you tell me what they are worth? DOH I can`t come up with "verbiage" for that one man! Well, yes I can. No I can`t

i never said i wanted to sell these. I play them everyday. was just curious as to if they were low end cheap slingerlands or a nicer top end line.......they probably have more sentimental value to me than they are actually worth......but i just wanted to see if anyone knew anything about them.......obviously you dont.......not here to bicker about whether or not i acquired them to your standards......thanks anways

Then you should not have brought up the deal with the train. The way I read it was, that it was a cool deal that they were stolen. Believe me! there is NO ONE HERE that thinks it`s cool. In the future, think about how will people respond to what you are going to say before you say it. Your time will pass much smoother.

Just putting this out there.....

If we could have a moment of Complete Honesty here.

If you found out a set of your drums had originally been stolen, what would you do? Really, and honestly, if there were now way to know from whom they were taken 35 years ago.... what would you really do?

Just curious......

And, I'm sending Hawghunter a PM with my response to my question right now.

Kev

I think it's so cool and it speaks so highly of the character of the member here, that so many are offended at the thought of buying/owning stolen property. Makes me proud to be a member.

Parry - Those drums were riding on that train on their way to 'someone.' Whether that 'someone' was the owner of a music store, or a 15 year-old kid who was waiting for his first set of drums, is irrelevant. You try to depersonalize it by saying; "They came off a train" as if they grew there. No, 'somebody' ordered and paid for those drums and never got them.

-That- is the bad ju-ju/Karma the guys are talking about that is attached to that set of drums. "What goes around, comes around" is not the sole purview of Christians. Lots of people believe that axiom to be true regardless of personal belief in -any- religion. I'm not Christian, but I am a firm believer in the Law of Karma. I've seen it at work in my own life so many times that, I no longer have the luxury of doubt.

Because of 'how' you got them. the drums have bad vibes for anyone else. Keep em or give em away, your call. Just don't tell anybody how you got them. Lots of people (myself included) find the 'story' personally/morally offensive.

Food for thought; I had a set of drums stolen from my car after a gig way back in the stone-age. (New York city, 1968 outside of the Electric Circus Club.) The kit that was stolen was one that I worked and saved all summer for. My dad gave me the other half I needed to buy it. It was my first pro set of drums. To this day, if I ever run into the SOB who stole them from me, I would take him physically apart (systematically) with the cold detachment of a Ninja delivering justice. That's how mad -I still get- about it to this very day. All I have to do is recall it and it pi$$es me off all over again.

-That's- how 'someone' may be feeling (still, to this day) about that kit you have. The point is; you have no way of knowing. The guys who ripped off that kit, ripped off a person, not a 'thing.'

Get your heart in the right place man.

John

If there is justice (I believe there usually is) the thief is probably long dead or incarcerated for the rest of his wretched life.

And, thanks to the couple of guys who silenced the religious talk that was about to start. If anyone wants to ask me one to one about my religious leanings, I'll be glad to chat about it. But, I don't want to hear yours unless I ask you one to one.