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ok guys...why wont my hat pedal bounce back ?

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i've turned the adjustment thingy both ways for what seems like ever but makes no difference. i can pull it up and push it down by hand but it feels "sticky" , its not at all smooth traveling. as you can see, it is a Ludwig 70s modal.

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any ideas ? i have used a few drops of 3 n 1 oil, hope i didnt make matters wworse, it didnt seem to have any effect either way. so now what do i do ?

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Robyn
Posted on 10 years ago
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robyn - it could be a few things... best bet, take it apart and make sure nothing internal snapped, or is broken. Good opportunity to clean it up real nice, lubricate it in a couple of spots and troubleshoot it to identify the problem. Check the linkages inside, make sure the internal rods are connected. Check the spring, etc. etc. You'll find whatever is causing the problem sooner or later. I'll look around and see if I can find a mechanical diagram of the pedal.

John

EDIT: Look what I found, robyn! http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=45001

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Posted on 10 years ago
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The internal spring is stretched ..

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Posted on 10 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

robyn - it could be a few things... best bet, take it apart and make sure nothing internal snapped, or is broken. Good opportunity to clean it up real nice, lubricate it in a couple of spots and troubleshoot it to identify the problem. Check the linkages inside, make sure the internal rods are connected. Check the spring, etc. etc. You'll find whatever is causing the problem sooner or later. I'll look around and see if I can find a mechanical diagram of the pedal.JohnEDIT: Look what I found, robyn! http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=45001

thanks john. i read through the link you provided but it didnt seem to have the info im looking for. ill look through it again tho just to make sure i didnt miss something. ill probly just have to tear into it and see whats going on.

so, when i do start taking the stand apart, is there any particular details i need yo look out for, for example...spring loaded screws or parts that will fly apart if im not holding it right ? i hate them kind of surprises.

i have taken a cupl hat stands apart and fixed them but they were just cheapies, entry level type stands. they were easy fixes, have a feeling this is gonna be a bit more complicated.

is there a certain type of lubricant i should use? and im not sure what you mean by linkages. i'll work on it tomorrow and get back with ya after i get inside of it.

as Rims n Skins mentioned. ...if the spring is stretched, what do i do about that and will it be easy to identify if it is streched?

i'll check it out more, thanks for the help so far.

Stay Wiggly,
Robyn
Posted on 10 years ago
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Robyn sounds like it is just gummed up. The grease eventually goes bad collecting dirt in it. Pay particular attention to the 2nd post in John's link.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Robyn if your going to drum show in chitown, and still no luck bring it by my booth and ill look at it for you gary

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Robyn have you tried to pull the Hi hat rod completely out, It may have come loose. check that? remove the top hat cymbal and use the clutch tightened around the rod and see if it comes completely out?

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Posted on 10 years ago
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It only takes a small piece of gummed up grease to pinch the movement of a HH. Also if the cam up top goes to far over, it wont return but you said you can move it manually.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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robyn - take Latzanimal up on his offer!

John

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Ok guys, thanks for all the offers of help. i got it all apart now. real easy to take apart. nothing looks broke. i took photos...

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do you see anything wrong with any of the pieces?

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Robyn
Posted on 10 years ago
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